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CALLING ALL VEGANS with Sue Spahr and Alec Bosse – March 2019

CALLING ALL VEGANS with Sue Spahr and Alec Bosse – March 18, 2019

HAPPY TALES AND TAILS: As vegans, it pains us to learn about the unimaginably horrible things being done to animals each and every day, so it’s always a pleasure to hear good-news stories or watch videos of rescued creatures romping around happy and free. Our first guest, Carla Reilly, is the co-founder — with her husband, Harold — of Happy Tails Farm Sanctuary, located near Kingston, Ontario. Seventeen acres of safe space specializing in rehabilitating animals who have been abused and neglected, it’s also a living classroom educating and fostering compassion and empathy in youth and a safe space for military veterans needing to heal from their psychological wounds.

YEAR OF THE SLUT: If the title of Jen Lieberman’s book, “Year of the Slut”, doesn’t catch your attention, then you might be a robot. It’s a sex-positive, feminist piece that encourages women to embrace their sexuality. Think “Sex In The City” meets “50 Shades of Grey”. Jen is an award-winning producer, writer, and director, and she performs a stand-up comedy routine where she liberally sprinkles in vegan and environmental references. And she laid to rest the notion that vegans are humourless. “Year of the Slut” novel available on amazon.com!

THE PROMOTER GETS PROMOTED: Did you know there’s a magazine in Ontario, Canada called “Ontario Vegans Lifestyle Magazine”, and it’s completely devoted to vegans?! Veronika Simmons, the founder and editor-in-chief, chatted with us about this very unique form of activism, because let’s face it, there’s just nothing as cool for a vegan as being featured in a vegan magazine. Well, okay, maybe being interviewed on Calling All Vegans, but that’s the ONLY other thing that even comes close!

NOT ALL ROCKSTARS PLAY A GUITAR: We spoke with rockstar criminal lawyer and hero to animals and animal rights activists alike, Gary Grill. He’s a long-time vegan and social activist, and one of the men who spun the table around and put the Canadian pork industry on trial. With more and more people standing on their hind legs and speaking up for animals, and with there being more and more pushback from animal-exploiting industries, he’s no doubt going to be kept a very busy litigator! We are so lucky to have him on OUR side. Peace, respect, and justice for all. *throwing the horns*

THAT’S A (VEGAN) WRAP! Our regular segment, “That’s A (Vegan) Wrap!”, where Alec spends several minutes delivering glad and sad goings-on in the vegan movement and Sue sees if he can tell her something she hasn’t heard already. Even cornier and cringy-er than Alec’s puns? When we say together at the end: “And that’s a (vegan) wrap! Don’t miss it.

Gary Grill sending us off with some profound thoughts at the Animals Beyond Border Gala held December, 2018:

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(New) The Hardest Part About Being Vegan | Part 2

When you choose to become vegan you face many challenges and obstacles but with time you learn to overcome them you learn how to find vegan options and local shops you learn how to eat out he learned the recipes and he discovered new foods and new experiences he learned how to explain veganism to friends and family and you learn how to share the message with the world you do your best with the time and skills you have but somehow he doesn’t feel like enough the hardest challenge your face will be to look into the eyes of the animals being exploited knowing you can’t undo the damage and knowing that however hard we try billions of animals will still be tortured and killed in industries that destroying the planet and ruining our health there is an urgency that can’t be ignored and despite our actions most people still don’t understand we do everything we can but still we see animal products everywhere the media ignores and insults us and adverts continue to lie we protest and we speak up but the world seems to stay the same the stagnation makes us impatient and we slowly start to lose hope again when we watch the videos again we remember the feelings we first have that broke us inside we remember how angry we were and how determined we were to end things but as time goes by it’s easy to lose hope people who were once vegan decide to change those who are passionate turn against the community almost left just confusion and doubt we know things are changing but it will never be enough in a world where our actions affect the lives of so many but sometimes in life you have to have patience you have to realize that selfless actions don’t always give us a reward you don’t need a reward to change the world for the better we’ve been taught in society to focus on our goals so we never allow ourselves to enjoy the fruits of our simple actions we may not see complete animal liberation in our lifetime but we can be a part of the change that moves towards earth every day every time we choose to do the right thing your individual actions do make a difference and your passion doesn’t go unnoticed when we fight for what we believe in the world changes around us as we plant the seeds of compassion and mindfulness in places the desperately need oh it’s not our fault that so much suffering exists versus species will have the choice to live in harmony as best we can there are industries that care only about money so with education and empowerment we can help each other avoid the lives if we want change we must live the change with patience and courage and in each moment there is always an opportunity to help the world when you truly do your best you might not change the whole world but for the individuals you inspire you change their whole world and for the beings whose lives are saved you do make a difference there are people in the world who are alive thanks to the power of plant-based nutrition and there are animals living free on sanctuaries because a handful of people chose to protect them for those individuals life is so beautiful so do your best don’t compare yourself to others and disempower yourself realize the good you do by being vegan and by sharing it with others life is a collection of moments and we can fill them with wherever we choose so I hope you can fill yours with empowered mindful actions thank you for watching this video please share this message with people who need to hear I’ll see you in the next video bye for now

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Animal Rights Extremists: Terrorism vs. Protest

Has your group been labeled as a terrorist organization have you been labeled as a terrorist we got threatening phone calls to people following our trucks know hey we’re terrorizing our local farmers they’re terrorizing us. I’m in Berkeley California and I’m meeting with an animal liberation group called direct action everywhere also known as DXE they’re notorious for their extreme tactics which includes civil disobedience mass protests and trespassing because several of DX these tactics are illegal many of their members have been arrested some are even facing felony charges that could land them up to 60 years in prison but even with the looming threat of prison time DXE is planning the largest action in the history of the organization which will happen tomorrow morning at an undisclosed location let’s do it all one more time my name is Wayne Cheung and I’m co-founder of the animal rights Network direct action everywhere I’m also a lawyer and former and law professor we started the EXCI in 2013 because we wanted to build a movement for animal rights [Music] we haven’t labeled this terrorist and it’s shocking because we’re just a bunch of people volunteer at dog and cat shelters and really love animals some of these terrorist labels may be in response to past DXE actions in May of 2018 Wayne was indicted with multiple felony charges after breaking into a pig farm in Utah to document living conditions he removed two piglets from the property these charges could send Wayne to prison for sixty years if he’s convicted so you are facing pretty much the rest of your life in prison yeah and you’re still going to participate in this open rescue tomorrow yeah why for most the past 20 years of my life as an animal I attacked us I thought to myself that there will come a time where you have to make some sacrifices to bring exposure to this issue and you have to be ready to make those sacrifices I am several hundred activists from across the country gathered to hear Wayne’s final briefing as he reveals the specific target and mission of today’s action their objective is to break into a large egg farm and occupy the property until all the sick and injured chickens are removed folks we are about to march into a massive factory farm in the heart of darkness and hell we’re gonna expose what’s happening inside and try to take some of the Andals out and today we’ve got a legal opinion from a scholar we’ll be delivering to the company saying we have the right to be there we have the right to rescue these animals are we all ready to go a lawyer has written Wayne a legal opinion arguing that DX’s actions today are protected under a California animal abuse law Penal Code 597 II however 597 II has yet to be used as a successful legal defense for actions like this since DXE is technically trespassing vais will not cross property lines to film all footage inside the farm is filmed by DXE we are approaching the facility I can see the signs to say eggs so it seems like they’re starting to brush the facility they’re starting to run I’m an investigator with the rescue network for California peonies attached to this letter you can be de let’s uh sorry I’m not thank you very much sir thank you very much right to do this we do have the right to fire ace seems like a lot of the workers are coming out really confused about what is happening coming onto the property who has no right to be here these animals are not being missing so this is a good operation this is a very very good operation so you expect arrests I’m gonna go over and tell our deputy [Applause] you have a right under all right or anything we did you want me this ever right pictures [Applause] look at how crimps wave conditions are dehydration because they have no access to water as you can see there’s probably a few hundred of them to come and support the animals are going to be coming out soon we have at least three cars I don’t know how many officers are actually on sites it’s gonna they’re gonna be walking for a few minutes there’s a few hundred of them oh they’re all coming out over here is this one okay is there anything wrong with this one nobody in there is okay what do you have going on right now she was found in there 5 rescuers isn’t I’m just holding on to her right now is she dead yes it looks like the police are actually starting to like occupy the front of the building and probably stop them from going back in police have blocked the entrance to the farm DXE is considering going back into the property to release more birds Wayne is negotiating these demands with officers and farm owners we’re gonna check on animal patrols MTA okay I’m appreciative rays of operation so far so good and we’ll take a look here in a little bit thank you very much I appreciate it so Wayne what is happening what we’ve argued is that under 597 first of all we have the right to go again it doesn’t matter but they cannot stop it cannot sighs just like if someone is torturing their dog and you go to give the dog some assistance the other right to do it have a right to do all right what’s up is Sergeant Thompson asking you no go back in he’s asking us not to go back and right now and and he’s he’s saying that in exchange for not exercising our rights he will go in with animal control and we will have an opportunity to see some of these disease and distressed animals in the barn Wayne Wayne can I talk to you over here we’ll get going talking to [Applause] I’ve asked you to be reasonable I’ve asked you spend a winter with me yeah and you’re refusing that this is a setup Friday it looks your game file it’s leaves a box outside let’s leave the press and the cameras off and have seen the outside as well sure using both of you guys okay Dave going I don’t even want to go inside I don’t want any police officers okay so basically what’s happening is the owner said he wants to talk to Wayne without media without police so that’s where they went we’re gonna wait and see what happens they said we could remove sicker distressed handles but they kind of waffled on this and they said what do you see a sick and distress and they also said we did not remove any sick of distress panels so well the folks are applying to do a civil experience please approach the fraud we just announced everybody that they are going to go in here they go so there are walking across they’re gonna get arrested we see Wayne there are a lot of people who have charges who are going to get arrested [Music] Duane is getting arrested property in total 40 activists including Wayne are arrested and taken to sonoma county sheriff’s office and they’re released the next morning so we’re going to visit Mike he’s one of the owners of the farm that dxc escaped the break-in and I’m gonna talk to him about how he’s feeling a few months out how it has affected him how are you good my clever thanks for having me out here you bet so in the aftermath of what happened what what have your thoughts been what have you been thinking about right after it was really why me what was so bad with our operation that we were the targets we looked at DXE and after really understanding what they’re about and how they’re not for upsetting animal welfare standards they’re for the eradication of using animals if you realize there’s no way there’s a cover going to be a common ground they excel at trying to create some some mayhem and they they think it’s a positive or constructive way to have a discussion but it’s not it’s detrimental it shut our business down it concerned our employees and we have people today who have lingering issues about this type of thing happening again it’s a big operation but we’re small farmers do you consider your farm humane should there be a concern about how your birds are raised all farmers should be held accountable they should be doing everything they can to provide humane care for the amount of effort we put in to take care of these animals that’s the way it should be done we’re audited by three different groups that look at our animal care from a humane or animal welfare perspective the statements that dxc had made were false they were saying that the birds are not provided water and not provided feed basically and I’m happy to show you inside of our chicken houses so you can see that every chicken has feed and water access to it 24 hours a day this is a cage free house and these curtains this is where the nests are and what we’re doing is creating a safe place for them that’s dark because they like to lay their eggs in a place that’s safe from predators that’s why these curtains are here you can see the nipples as well up here if I push it and so they know to do that since day one they’ve been drinking water this way something from that day I do remember there was a dead bird that one of them did bring out yeah animals are just like humans if you have a city with a hundred thousand people in it there’s some people die every day it’s part of the natural process it’s one of the things that if I could run a farm and none of my animals ever died I’d be all for it but I can’t it’s hard it’s hard to be a farmer and have your integrity called on the floor by a bunch of people who don’t have any understanding of our industry the challenges we face the amount of effort that goes into producing this safe affordable and humanely raised product because of the DXE event we have evaluated everything we do from an animal welfare perspective we’ve looked at ways that we can improve it we’re actually making some changes so there’s there’s a good thing that comes out of it but it came out of it in the most unconstructive manner do you consider a DXE a domestic terrorist group that’s a great question they’re terrorizing us they’re terrorizing our local farmers there’s not a night that goes by that I hear a slow-moving car that I think that there’s somebody out there patrolling everybody is nervous now because of what they’re doing there’s nothing constructive about their action I mean were you know so it’s been a while since we’ve seen each other and last time I saw you you were being arrested so just update me what’s happened since then we’ve done a number of other mass demonstrations but most notably we went back to Sonoma County with a couple hundred people to do a demonstration of a huge poultry farm and as a result 58 activists including myself around up in charged with multiple felonies and now we have to win this fight in court so talk to me a little bit about that you know how are you guys working with 597 a when you’re in court facing some of the charges that you’re facing it’s always scary to be in court it’s even more scary when you’re facing dozens of felonies and that’s what we’re facing now at the same time we know this is an opportunity because if we can win one of these cases what that will mean is that the law and the court and the jury accept the fact that these animals are living creatures and that will open the doors for activists across the state and across the nation to start infiltrating these farms taking the animals out and exposing an industry that when exposed people want it to stop so I think what Mike would say and what I think he did say to you um when we weren’t there is that he’s doing everything by the book by the law but that’s not still not okay for you guys the laws are corrupt and the laws are often written and enforced by the industry for the industry their response is always one in the same which is this is an industry standard and our response to that is corporations don’t ride the laws that people write the laws they want to believe what they’re doing is not bad for the animals are bad for the environment their economic interests certainly are aligned with that belief but when we actually look at this with a an objective lens we have to acknowledge these animals are suffering do you think if you and Wayne ever talked again you don’t think that you guys would come to some sort of agreement I don’t know a good analogy for it but the only one I could give you is if you own a house and there’s an arsonist who once have a conversation with you a discussion with you how could you ever come to agreement on something he wants to shut all animal agriculture down I need to pay off the loans I want to continue our family business I want to continue to provide fresh food for the citizens of this state things happen and after they happen life is never the same for us it’s having several hundred people come break into your building and broad daylight push their way past your employees and steal animals out of your house that happened you know I can’t can’t go back can’t make it go away what you were doing is illegal you know what do you say to them you never change the world by following the rules first of all so some rules are meant to be broken when there’s an unjust rule someone should break it but more importantly I don’t see us as rule breakers I see us as rule makers that if you look at the course of human history these great social changes only occurred because people were willing to test the boundaries of the current system

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A Vegans Emotional Plea To The Paris Public…

How do we get there maybe all right so here we are with Paris AV so amazing that wherever we go on earth there’s always a cube of truth in the middle of whatever city it is it’s just amazing how far this has spread people standing there doing outreach with individuals who probably have never seen anything like what happens in a slaughterhouse before just worldwide viral vegan education it’s so good to see just walking up to it it’s just inspirational I love it there’s a fire inside your heart let it light up the world [Music] I think see you that mdn Wow this is a vegan hat yeah do you care about the oceans yes they’re basically animal agriculture contributes to every major environmental destruction we face leading causes of Amazon deforestation ocean dead zones global warming land use water use all these animals need food to eat and they grow the grain 50% of the world’s grain is fed to animals in livestock production we have starving people in countries that don’t have food and also the abuse that’s inherent in the industry can’t be avoided they are all no matter how high Welfare slaughterhouse you go to a bolt gun and a head slashed across the throat and dismembered into pieces sentient life like all other species they want to live desire a life of freedom and we take that from them when we purchase animal products so the reason we talk to consumers is because talking to industry when they’re making money off of demand is impossible they won’t change why would they talking to consumers though changes where the money goes and we boycott these industries and essentially they stop doing this to animals and the planet and that’s our only hope is basically consumers it’s really hard it was difficult it was hard to get here didn’t ya he was environmentalist but hard I couldn’t bring anything out come out of there why does the rainforest mother why does the rain forest matter for oxygen so so cuz it cuz it habitat for those native tribes there in Brazil ok because it impacts us directly so we care about human beings and our sentient life yeah he said he cared about the rainforest and I said well why does a rainforest matter he said because of our option I said it good so you care about human sentient life and I said for the same reasons you care about human sentient life we extend that to other sentient life we extend that same care that we do for human sentient life to other sentient life as well the rainforests obviously a lot of different species live in the rainforest you know chimpanzees and monkeys and tigers and elephants but we would say like yeah they’re all important species human beings are an important species but cows pigs chickens lambs fish the way they see realities not too much different to the way these other animals do in the way that we do as ugh too much of a jump he couldn’t it was human supremacists in his value system so I didn’t see he did yeah halfway through 14 countries just me and my man over there Abdullah the legendary cameraman the man behind the camera do you understand what vegan is vegan you know what vegan means I used to love meat – yeah I love the tech is – like the taste taste I used to like the taste but then when I see how it’s made it makes me feel sick and I feel bad for the animals yeah I feel guilty yeah put yourself in the animals body and imagine what it would feel like for them if it were you when we pay for meat you pay for animals to be hurt without if you don’t pay these places shut down that’s a good yeah [Music] there will always be people who will eat it but you won’t so so let me give you you know I’m yes at well do you hurt people okay why there’s always going to be people who hurt people if you stop hurting people it won’t change everything but it will change in your life you won’t be hurting animals anymore okay when you yeah it’s hard so it’s called appealing to futility when someone says if they stop consuming animal products this is still going to happen you can’t stop all the violence so why should I stop but you could apply that same reasoning in the human context and say look I mean people are always going to abuse their wife or abuse children or you know abused dogs and cats so why should I stop why shouldn’t what you know people would never apply that same justification in the human context because it would sound ridiculous you know we stop in our own lives because we adhere to a moral system and why should that moral system change when it comes to animals just shouldn’t every single person here in that cube every single vegan you see here grew up eating the flesh of animals you don’t have to only if you make a change now and you teach it’s hard but is it but let’s just talk don’t worry about everyone let’s just talk about you you the power you have you have this power well you I mean I can see you have a big heart your complete compassionate person that makes you sad because you feel what they feel that’s good that’s what I do – it hurts my heart every day and instead of now I try to convince people to stop doing this to them because you’re our only hope you’re their only hope the animals only hope this here challenge 22 you can try a vegan livestock where every time I think of you know eating meat when I first might think I think of the animals and I don’t call it me anymore you know what I call her animals I think of who I’m eating not what I mean who was it [Music] we appreciate the hat good one eh I feel like I’m in such a good mood right now hey considering we’re so tired like I was so tired before like I felt like death warmed up now I feel like Gary Yourofsky on outreach without our money this doesn’t happen thank you dude like I’m trying to get a card out

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3 NUTRITION STUDIES THAT WILL TURN YOU VEGAN OVERNIGHT

I want to share with you some results from a very important series of studies in 2003 the National Institutes of Health funded the Physicians Committee to study head-to-head a low-fat vegan diet and a more conventional diabetes diet for people who had type 2 diabetes up until that point people were saying okay well if you have diabetes that means there’s too much sugar in the blood don’t eat sugar don’t need too much carbohydrate that turns to sugar if you need to lose weight cut calories that was the conventional diet we wanted to see if a completely plant-based diet a vegan diet with no limit on calories no limit on carbohydrates would be as effective or maybe even more effective than the conventional diet well in 2006 we published the first results and what we found was astounding when you looked at people who made no changes in their medications at all the people who went on the conventional diet they did well the measure we use is called a1c hemoglobin a1c is a measure of your blood glucose control for about a three month period and for them it improved by about 0.4 absolute percentage points that’s good but for the vegan group it dropped three times more by one point two absolute percentage points that’s like a real heat crate pharmaceutical I have to say but except instead of being a pharmaceutical it was all food so the vegan diet was dramatically effective the next question was what happens when people follow it over the long term so in 2009 in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition we published the long-term results and what we found was that with a conventional diet people tended to get back to where they started but with the vegan diet there was a little bit of give back but they were still healthier after the follow-up period than they were at the beginning dr. Esselstyn is a surgeon but as he will tell you he would rather not have to operate on people at all he’d rather get to the cause of their disease and so what he tackled was heart disease he brought in people who had existing heart disease and and I’m not talking about I’ve got a high cholesterol level I’m at risk these were people who had heart disease now they were at risk of premature death and many of them were on medications a list as long as your arm and what he said is let’s go to the cause the causes the cholesterol the animal fat that’s in meat and dairy products even fish he throw those threw those off the plate completely so this was a completely vegan diet and over time he found that as people are getting away from those foods and they’re enjoying the greens and the beans and the healthy vegan foods that have no cholesterol and no animal fat something happened in their bodies not only was their cholesterol level falling their blood pressure improving their weight melting away but the arteries were starting to open up again their chest pain melted away and instead of being at risk of premature death they were really living again and dr. Esselstyn showed that when people adhere to this program they become just about bulletproof so people may need medical treatments of all kinds but treatment number one is a healthy diet and that’s what dr. Esselstyn proved I want to share with you the results of a really important research study it was done by dr. Dean Ornish now you know dr. Ornish as the medical genius who showed that you can reverse heart disease through a program of lifestyle changes including a healthy diet well he then set his sights on prostate cancer as you know it’s a big killer of men particularly in their later years so what dr. Ornish did was he brought in a group of men and half of them were in the control group getting the treatments their doctors recommended the other half began a completely vegan diet it’s good for your heart will it be good for cancer now what he found was that among the people who were in the control group about six of them couldn’t wait anymore they had to go ahead and have treatment before the study was over I mean they had to have surgery or they had to have radiation because their cancer was progressing too quickly but in the vegan group nobody needed treatment in this year-long study because they were tracking their blood tests their PSA prostate specific antigen showed that their cancer wasn’t progressing in fact for them their PSA levels actually dropped by about 4% overall over the course of the year so it looks like a healthy plant-based diet isn’t just great for your heart it’s also good for cancer prevention and for cancer survival

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Are Pets Vegan? Dog-matic Vegans Say No | +What Pets Can You Feed Vegan?!

I’m like in today after many requests pets specifically is the concept of pets vegan are we just farming them for an oxytocin rush and then telling ourselves they’re having a good time or are they key to the human experience and help people empathize with animals and finally can cats and dogs be fed a vegan diet this topic is a hard one for vegans because we generally love animals and love being around them a lot probably too much from a selfish perspective we get a lot of benefits from having pets less anxiety more comfort and happiness and as this one study concluded they can even help you better recover from rejection but what about from the animals perspective let’s just jump right into the big philosophical question does having a pet get in the way of veganism and the idea of not exploiting not controlling and not inducing suffering upon animals from a purist perspective of animal suffering prevention it would be easy to say no sure in a vacuum may be a great way to reduce pet suffering is to not have pets at all you won’t be taking away the reproductive abilities by castrating or neutering them there’s no chance of you neglecting them and you’re not taking any animals out of their natural habitat well these are valid points I don’t think it is constructive to integrate these viewpoints into wider vegan thinking not only because it depends on the animal species but because there are already so many things that vegans can’t do which prevents people from becoming vegan in the first place there are things you can’t eat things you can’t wear and those are pretty clear-cut and shouldn’t be compromised but to say that you can a pets is a little much especially when in the US for example 60% of people have some type of pet to get a really good answer on this we’d essentially have to calculate the impossible which would be figuring out how much animal death and suffering would be prevented by vegans spreading a no pet message versus how much animal death and suffering would not be prevented if we scare everybody away by presenting ourselves as an anti pet cult one thing is for sure though pets play an undeniable role in connecting humans with animals and making them empathize with all animals including the ones that are regular for that reason and so many more I think pets are awesome and absolutely fit within a vegan ideology all of this being said vegans need to get their cruelty-free pet game on lock let’s do this firstly it is definitely not in line with basic vegan logic to buy from a breeder the commodification of animals was in the breeding industry the cruelty and all the forestry production it just goes too deep and there’s really no justification with how many animals are available to rescue but what’s the point in rescuing a single animal if you end up feeding it hundreds of chickens and dozens of pigs and other animals over the next decade this is the most overlooked aspect of being a vegan pet owner the pet is unexcelled if you have a pet piranha for example every fish that you feed it you in a sense might as well be eating because you are adding to that animal footprint as the person who decided to get a piranha yes the animals that you feed your pet are not going directly into your body but you essentially need to draw a giant circle around you and whatever type of animal you have and take responsibility for the animals that are getting fed to either one of you and I know some of you are like ah but I already have a cat from before I went vegan and don’t worry we’ll take a good level head and look at how to solve that in a bit but first I’ve asked the question can you even own an animal are they even yours quick answer this idea is generally why vegans opt out of the idea of animal ownership and instead go for the companionship title let’s be honest though this is really not a two-way street there are certainly some animals that own their humans now I can’t go all the way through this video without asking the question are we still exploiting our pets even though we think we’re giving them a great life and that we view them as companions it’s a sort of an abstract idea but vegans don’t consume byproducts from animals to avoid animal exploitation but in a sense we do get byproducts from our pets albeit not physical but for example we do use them for oxytocin or joy or comfort and the truth is how do you really know how much comfort and joy and animals Tirion singh unless you have of course a thermal-imaging camera and a veterinary scientist then you know exactly what they’re feeling the point is because need to examine this and their implications for example you should not keep an animal alive past the point where it’s suffering just because it might make you feel good and because you love it you still have to look at it the level-headed way okay now to the logistical question Ken dogs or even cats be vegan we know they’re not herbivores but let’s start with dogs from pet MD dr. Jennifer Coates writes quote the answer is yes dogs can eat a vegetarian diet and thrive even veganism consuming a diet that does not include any animal products though a little trickier is possible for dogs of course what you can find people that will disagree with this there’s no denying that amazing results have been achieved I usually stay away from anecdotes but this one from a statistical perspective is undeniable bramble the vegan border collie set the Guinness Book of World Records in 2002 for the oldest living dog at 27 years old 14 years later bramble is still number five given the minut fraction of vegan dogs across the world that is an undeniable fact about how vegan dogs can thrive and I also happen to live with a 16 year old vegan dog named Milo and let’s just say he’s doing a heck of a lot better than most 16 year old dogs which are dead he’s a little special but then again he’s always been a little special like any doggie diet a vegan diet can be done wrong it’s best to give your dog a supplement with or food with l-carnitine and taurine to cover the bases though they can make their own taurine with enough protein in their diet which happens to be 25 or more grams per 1000 calories so don’t feed them a high carb fruitarian diet back to dr. Coates quote the right balance of different plant-based sources of protein example beans corn soy and whole grains can still provide the needed amino since there’s plenty of vegan dog foods out there that need the Association of American feed control officials guidelines but yes you should definitely still take your dog for regular checkups final point there seems to be a nun proportional shaming toward vegans that feed their dogs a vegan diet sure if you feed them a crappy vegan diet will shorten their life span but so will being overweight like forty five percent of the dogs in the US but no one seems to be telling the literally tens of millions of people that have an overweight dog in their home hey did you know you may be literally killing your pet with kindness but kibbles mom’s food is not an excuse to kill your dog prematurely I also find evilly hazard is to be regularly feeding your dog the diseased and hormone pumped not fit for consumption animal parts as well as the processed foods that go into standard dog food when it comes to cats though the pushback is even stronger and understandably so cats are obligate carnivores meaning they require certain nutrients from animals for example they cannot make taurine at all unlike dogs along with a lot of other nutrients that are only found in animals to the point where most experts definitely advise against it in the words of Lou Olsen PhD and author on the subject quote trying to feed a cat a vegan diet would be like me feeding my horses meat you’re taking a whole species of animal and trying to force it to eat something that it is not designed to handle but does that mean it can’t be done without inflicting suffering well this certainly hasn’t stopped countless numbers of people from putting their cats on a vegan diet with the several different types of vegan cat food available some of which like many products in the u.s. failed to meet their advertised level of nutrients how old is a vegan cat food that meets guidelines fare well in this year-long study though none of the cats reached a taurine deficiency status three out of the seventeen or about eighteen percent of them ended up with low taurine levels all of the cats b12 indicator levels remained fine but they didn’t test for everything that a cat needs being a vegan if the cat also puts you in between a rock and a hard place litter in the sense that the low pH of a vegan diet can lead to blockages in the urethra of your cat this is more of an issue for male pads than female cats the pH of your cat’s urine must be monitored and you can also add acidifier like vitamin C to your cat’s water I think it’s important to tackle this with a level head if you are a vegan you do not want to be exploiting animals or supporting the livestock industry by buying pet food but you also don’t want to be causing suffering for your cat this presents two options number one feed your cat a vegan diet monitor them regularly with their pH and take them for check-ups and possibly put them at a higher risk of some issues or number two figure out a way to get meat without increasing animal suffering or supporting the livestock industry one solution that is work for people is talking to a local restaurant and getting their meat based waste but oh wait you’re a cat person so you’re probably an introvert other options could be be a free game for your cat and dumpster-dive for meat or you can go the roadkill route which is pretty gross all of these things I would be against a human doing for health and ethical reasons but a cat that might be suffering otherwise go for it and finally again there is no criticism of the widespread poor dietary practices for cats for example it’s yeah it’s not natural to feed them no meat but it’s also not natural to feed them a fish that is 10 to 100 times their size and loaded with mercury aka tuna in this study cats that ate the tuna diet too not just have elevated levels of mercury they also walk blessed vocalize less and played less yes played less now I can’t cover every species here but the final point is that most animals are not gonna do that well as pets we’ve had a symbiotic relationship with dogs for sixteen to thirty two thousand years which means they are quite well adjusted some scientists even say that we have yet to fully domesticate cats and they’ve only been living in and around humans for about nine thousand years which is why if you die in your home they we’ll eat you man’s best friend of me for you in conclusion give me ten million dollars to create the most well tested best vegan cat food ever made no one all seriousness is probably better if you don’t get a new indoor cat if you already have one just do your best to reduce animal suffering on all counts and if you have a dog just make sure you have a certified food that does it in terms of nutritional value and get regular checkups and maybe they will reach sixteen like Milo currently is or 27 like Brambleton as for rescuing other species just be aware of the animals needs make sure you have year-round outdoor space and make sure you start an Instagram account showing people how awesome your baby pig goat or whatever is so they stop eating as many animals alright that’s it for today feel free to let me know down below if you agree or disagree with any of my pet philosophies alright thank you for watching you

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In the past year , I’ve taken time off to help myself grow as a person , and I have realized that my past style, were considered controversial for a very long time . At this point , I honestly don’t care if I’m controversial or not , but I want to use the following I’ve gained to make a positive impact on the world , no matter how difficult that may be or how graphically I’ll have to put the message across .