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The Food Matrix – 101 Reasons to Go Vegan

[UltraVid id=129 ]Good evening and thank you for coming my name is James and I’m the humanities you cater for the animal rights foundation of Florida now I’m typically giving this presentation to a high school classroom so my audience is a little different and I say you won’t find out we’ll find out so I pretty much know my audience yeah I can pretty much guarantee that 99% of the kids in the class are eating meat dairy and eggs and there might be one or two kids who are vegetarian but it’s a very rare occasion where you’ll get a kid who is vegan um when I speak to adults it’s a little different you know I don’t quite know my audience as well so I want to get to know you so here’s what I want everybody to do I want everybody to please stand up all right now if you are vegan meaning you choose not be any meat of the animal no flesh of the animal no cows no chickens no pigs no turkey and no fish alright surprise surprise a fish is not a vegetable no dairy no cow’s milk no cow cheese no cow butter no cow ice cream and no eggs please have a seat so if you are vegan please have a seat okay now for the rest of you you’ll have to remain standing for the rest of the presentation everybody everybody have a seat there’s another benefit of talking to high school kids and that’s they’re not afraid to participate in the presentation they’ll say whatever is on their mind whether I like it or not but with adults it’s a little bit harder it’s like pulling teeth now this presentation is designed to be interactive meaning I want you to actually participate I want you to engage and you think about the presentation it’s like a row shark test and I show you a picture and you tell me what you see so the maturity level is the same as high school students it’s a mushroom people all right how many of you have ever seen the movie The Matrix okay so move more than half of us sorry for those who haven’t seen the movie The Matrix there’s a scene the very beginning of the film where the main character is presented with two pills one blue and one red and he has to make a choice if you choose the blue pill he’ll fall asleep and when he wakes up everything will be exactly the way it’s always been if you choose the red pill he’ll finally learn the truth and I’m here today to give you that red pill but let me make this very clear to you I’m not here to tell you what to do not here to tell you how to think how to feel and I’m certainly not here to tell you what to eat I’m simply here to provide you with information now what you do with that information is solely up to you so what does the matrix look like let me show you now despite what you might be thinking these two circles are not equal I repeat these two circles are not equal one is in fact larger than the other what I need you to do is determine which one that is so please raise your hand if you believe the blue circle is larger than the red alright please raise your hand if you believe the red circle is larger than the blue all right very good now before I said anything about these two circles what was your first instinct equal right because they look equal the reason why they look equal is because in fact they are equal these two circles are identical yet I got just about every one of you to raise your hand and say that they’re not so what do we learn but you can be manipulated like that to believe in something that goes against your natural instincts just just imagine just imagine as a child you’re taught that the blue circle is larger than the red if you say it enough times you convince yourself that’s the truth if you’re told the lie enough times it becomes part of your reality and if enough people are taught that lie that the blue circle is larger than the red well now it becomes part of the culture and if that culture then passes that misinformation along to the next generation will now become tradition and what we have to remember is that just because we have a tradition doesn’t mean it’s morally acceptable tradition and morality are not always the same I mean can you think of any traditions that we once had in the United States of America that we no longer have that today we think back and that was immoral slavery right less than 200 years ago and that was a tradition so the traditions we have today doesn’t necessarily mean morally acceptable and as we evolved as a culture so do our traditions now the matrix is a story it’s a story when told enough times to enough people it becomes part of that culture it becomes the tradition and this story is being told over and over every day in fact if you believe the image on the carton is where you’re getting your milk from you’re deceiving yourself this is a fantasy only exist in your head it’s a blue pill fed to you by the industry to get you to buy their product this is the matrix the lie we tell ourselves about where our food is coming from the reality is far more disturbing 90 to 95 percent of the milk the meat and the eggs that we consume in the United States are coming from these conditions this is called factory farming this is what you take thousands of hens pigs and cows you can find them in two warehouses in fact every year in the United States ten billion right ten billion cows pigs and chickens are being slaughtered for food so what that works out to be is that every second in the United States 300 animals are killed just like that so 300 600 900 1200 by the time I’m done talking today there’ll be over a million animals that have been slaughtered and most of us don’t even blink an eye and how is it possible that in the United States of America we can kill we can slaughter 300 animals every second and not question that because of the story we’ve been told the story justifies the action if you say it enough times you actually convince yourself that’s the truth how many of you were taught as a child you need to eat meat to get protein I know I was how many of you were taught you need to drink cow’s milk to get strong bones not dog milk not chimpanzee milk not elephant milk not rhino milk not hippo milk not Tiger milk not lion milk not giraffe milk not elephant milk did I say that already I think you get the point not even our own mother’s milk we need to drink cow’s milk to get strong bones the absurdity of drinking the milk from any other species and any other being besides our own mother when it’s said enough times loses its absurdness so all we’re going to do today is find out if the matrix is telling the truth now the first thing we’ve been taught is that our diet is natural and we eat meat dairy and eggs so therefore it must be natural so let’s find out you have two images on the wall all right and remember the road shock test you have two images on the wall I want you to tell me all the thoughts that come to mind when you see the image on the left and don’t be afraid to scream out nobody’s going to get sent to the principal what do you see fresh young sweet right if I came into the room with a basket of strawberries that looked just like that organic and I put him on the chair right here now what would be your thoughts okay the same thoughts what would you think if one of us got up and started chewing on the strawberries maybe we’d want to join it if I come into the room with the baskets strawberries how many of your mouth starts to salivate your mouth starts the water I take a strawberry and I put it under your nose what do you smell if I take a knife and I slice that strawberry in half and put that under your nose now what do you smell those how all the sensations remain the same you see a strawberry that looks like a strawberry you smell a strawberry and it smells like a strawberry and you take a bite out of a strawberry and surprise surprise it tastes like a strawberry exactly it’s a strawberry but what thoughts come to mind when you see the image on the right cute it’s kind of a rigged audience so you’re in a vegan restaurant but you know when I go to a classroom you know half the response you’ll get half the kids who see all cute animal pig Wilbert babe so half the class will see an animal and the other half the class will see bacon sausage ham pigs feet pork and hotdogs they’ll see a food it’s one of the other you either seeing an animal or you’re seeing food now what would happen if I took one of the pigs living brought them into the room right here and put them put them right in front of you does that change it now what do we see and I mean what would we think if one of if one of us got up and starts chewing on the pig not very normal if I come into the room with a pig under my arm how many of your mouth starts to salivate right I take a pig and I put it into your nose what do you smell smell Pig just like if it took a dog and put on your nose smell dog a cat you smell cat I took a knife and I sliced that pig in half and put that under your nose now what do you smell it’s not a stench of death you smell rotting corpse bacteria decomposing flesh you see there’s a process involved and I’m here today to show you that process of how you convert this animal into this product why should it why should it be kept a secret why should we not know what we’re participating in and what we’re putting in our now let’s make the situation slightly more realistic if I were to put a pig on this side of the room living in a butcher’s knife on side on side of that room I mean how many people would be willing to pick up the knife and take the life of that animal it’s very rare right and if somebody did that that’s all right but how many people in this room would try to stop that person from doing that right would we try that of course that’s compassion man is the greatest quality of the human race there’s no other species on this planet that has that level of compassion to extend to all living beings but if you would stop somebody from killing a pig in front of you and then go home and have this for breakfast let’s call hypocrisy just because it comes with a nice neat package all dressed up in your supermarket just because you didn’t take the knife and shove it through their jugular just because you can get blood on your clothes and just because you didn’t hear their screams doesn’t mean you didn’t participate in the killing every time we buy this product we are supporting somebody else doing what we ourselves wouldn’t want to do when we ourselves wouldn’t want to see and what we ourselves wouldn’t want to hear now if you still see bacon sauce lehand when I bring a pig into the room what happens when I change it to one sec so so like not there we go all right all right it’s the common response now I’ve never heard anybody say YUM nobody ever sees dog feed hotdogs so why not why don’t we see a food but we’ve we’ve been accustomed to view this animal as our pet I mean how many of you have a dog or a cat right how many of you have a pig not so much all right so but there are other cultures there are other cultures again the cultural story for us is this is your pet in another culture certain parts of the world they eat cats and dogs that’s their culture that’s their story they’ve been told and how do you feel about that a lot of people think it’s disgusting right I imagine every one of you probably thinks it’s disgusting your dog why would it be disgusting to eat this animal and not disgusting to eat this animal why would it be wrong to eat this animal and right to eat this animal and most importantly why would it be wrong to kill this animal and right to kill this animal it’s culture it’s the story it’s the matrix that we’ve been told one culture sees this as a pet this is a food and though the culture might see this as a pet and this is a food another culture might see in both is food certain parts of India the cow is sacred they would never think about eating a cow in certain parts of India is that wrong is that unnatural that’s just the story they’ve been told but culture is just a story that’s all it is it’s just make-believe when I’m concerned with is what is natural to the human species because every culture has a different story but you take somebody from Asia Africa South America North America Europe and we’re all the same species we’re all human beings so let’s take a three Road from any country in the world and you put that three out in a room and you line up five animals in front of that three-year-old a pig a dog a cow a cat and a chicken you think the thrill is going to know which one to eat and which one to pet what’s the three are most likely going to do or try to do play with them all it’s going to try to play with them all the three oh it has to be taught no no no no don’t play with it eat him play with him pet him that’s what we were taught we didn’t choose our diet our diet is a learned behavior we were raised to perceive this animal as your pet and this animal is your food but that’s not the natural perception the natural is that there all of our our companions so our parents chose our diet based upon the cultural story and if you have children you base their diet on the cultural story being told which is the same story now let me give you another example if you take a baby and you put a baby in a crib and you put on the light out of the right-side of baby chick and on the left side an apple which one do you think the baby is going to try to play with and which one you think the baby is going to try to eat most likely I put the inanimate object in this case the Apple in his or her mouth and if the baby you know most likely will be piqued by the interest of the thing moving in this case the thing being actually a living being in the chick now if the baby tries to eat the chick what’s the chicken ER they’re just going to run away or peck at him now if you walked into a room with the baby in the crib playing with an apple and chewing on the head of a live chick what do you think that baby like demon baby you’re gonna let me allow that you allow that demon baby to play with your baby set up a playdate probably not so if it’s not alright for a baby to cause harm to an animal even when they don’t know any better why is it become more acceptable as we get older when we do know the difference between an apple and a baby chick the question is do we find it acceptable to cause harm to an animal let’s find out if you don’t walk outside right now and you saw somebody taking a baseball bat to a a dog’s head what would you do you you take action at the very least you’d call the police because you recognize that as a violation of this animal’s right to be free from harm we’re all given that right at birth every animal on this planet whether it’s a mammal whether it’s an amphibian whether it’s a bird a reptile of fish and insect we’re all Earthlings human beings as well we are all earthlings and what do all Earthlings have in common two things we all want to live we all desire to live that is what it creates the Equality in all of us we all want to live and the second thing is we all avoid pain those two things make us equal from the largest land animal on earth the elephant to the smallest the insect the and everything in between from the dog the pig to the human being we all desire to live and we all avoid pain now if you were to walk outside right now and you saw somebody taking a baseball bat to a pig’s head with your emotional response not be the exact same thing of course because the question for you is what’s the difference what’s the difference between the two right is there a difference you might think one is cuter than the other but that says more about you than anything about these two animals a lot of kids will say well the nose looks different I say they go but they both got a nose to smell some kids will say well he’s got hooves and he’s got paws I say that both got feet to walk and run some kids say well his ears are going up and here’s the ears of flappy they’ve both got two ears to hear they both got two eyes to see they’ve both got a heart to beat and a mind to think and the reason why we would take action for both of them is because we recognize the equality between them and not the difference any difference is insignificant the similarities though are striking we know they’re equal yet every time we sit down for a meal we create that separation we create that inequality it’s just like we knew the two circles where you go red and blue but all it takes is somebody to tell you a story now what we most importantly recognize is that all animals have feelings but how do we know and how do we really know how do we even know that humans are feelings well I mean love these feelings what’s most important to you happiness right how do you know if somebody’s happy if I said to you right now is the happiest moment in my life when you believe me hopefully not no offense so how are you going to tell somebody’s happy they’re smiling they’re laugh and I can take somebody in in this room who doesn’t speak your language but you can tell how they’re they’re feeling by their expressions the sounds doesn’t have to do with a language though what about other animals will they wag their tail they bark they jump up and down they play with each other they lick so all these are signs of how they feel what about pain though if I said to you right now my right hand is killing me would you believe me having given you any silent it might though it might be killing me there’s only one person in this room who knows it’s actually killing me that’s me of course I say well let’s say I was to trip over my feet here and now my head against the side of this table start bleeding profusely out of my head and I’m screaming on the ground when you believe them in pain of course I’m showing the signs here’s a test you take your hand you put over a flame what happens burns right what’s your reaction pull back and scream you take a dog’s paw put it over a flame what’s his reaction same thing pull back and scream you take a pig’s leg put it over a flame same reaction you take a dog a pig a cow a chicken a goat a doc a horse a rat a mouse any animal that’s living put a body part of the flame they all have the same reaction you take a fish out of water and what’s their reaction flop it around why I can’t breathe you want to know what it feels like to be a fish out of water have you have your loved one put your put your head under water and not let go I really wouldn’t your loved one know they’re doing that that’s what it feels like of course fish have feelings they’re not they’re not vegetables if you take a vegetable you take a plant you take a strawberry and you put it over a flame and what happens else doesn’t have feet to run away doesn’t have a mouth to scream and nose to smell eyes to see ears to hear a heart to beat and a mind to think and a lot of kids will like to give this one before you say well plants have feelings don’t have a nervous system they don’t have a nervous system without a nervous system they can’t feel pain and happiness the way that animals and humans can so the question is when did we learn this when did we learn that animals have feelings hopefully this isn’t the first day that you learn this right when you younger right and how do you learn it maybe you had a cat or dog all you have to do is go outside and just experience any of the animals outside and they run from you it means they’re scared if they come up to you probably have food or something they want it so we understand this through the experiences we have in fact think about the books that were read to you as a child songs you listen to and how about the movies now think about the movies we show to our kids what all these movies have in common were they about what kind of animals farmed animals even fish are being farmed you have pigs chickens cows and fish these are all the animals we eat what’s the common theme in these movies they’re running feathers being saved no animal wants to die no animal wants to be dinner on your plate you know we root for these animals you take even the biggest pork eater in the world he’s he’s ruining for Wilbert nobody wants to see well been made into bacon at the end of that film chicken run you know we root for the chickens now I guarantee there are thousand people’s you know watching chicken run go chickens go well you need a KFC bucket of chicken wings because I’m not making that connection babe how many kids watch the movie babe fall in love with babe and then go home and a fed babe unknowingly by their parents so we’re teaching kids to love these animals but eat them too and this is the closest thing you’ll come to see their reality in the matrix in this story we’ve told ourselves and most of the times and unfortunately the closest thing will come to is in cartoon form in ways it by Pixar and Disney nonetheless but today we step outside the matrix and generally speaking when I go into a high school classroom I shall meet your meet if you haven’t seen this video if you still are eating meat dairy eggs fish take a look at a meat door again be 18 org and you can see the conditions that these animals live in now I’m not going to show you that it’s it’s a every time I show two adults they just leave he’ll come back so I’m going to show you a three-minute video again by the the same people that put on the first video Farm Sanctuary it’s three minutes if you don’t want to watch it you don’t have to but this is where 90 to 95% of the meat dairy and eggs and we’re consuming the United States are coming from and any really if you have a problem watching it but you don’t have a problem eating it you know why the disconnect there but this isn’t just about animal rights this is also a health issue and that’s the second part of the presentation we’ll we’ll talk about after the video the question is do these animals look healthy to the conditions they’re living in look healthy because if the animals don’t look healthy to you why would you want to put a sick animal into your body one last thing before I show the video a lot of people said what about what about you know milk that doesn’t seem to be any harm in raising cows for milk notice the very first scene in this video of the dairy cows and you’re going to actually see a cow giving birth and notice what happens to her calf and notice her response if I could talk to animals that are being confined in and abused now in factory farms I would say I’m sorry for what we’re doing to you I wish it wasn’t this way and I’m doing everything I know to stop it and hopefully we will be able to stop it there’s not really a whole lot of good you can say I mean you just gotta just got a hope that it can stop and hope that people will recognize the harm we’re causing and we’ll choose a different way meat milk and eggs come from real animals they don’t just come from the grocery store and these animals desire to live and they want to be free of pain and suffering and fear and on today’s farms these animals only no fear in pain at human hands they never know human kindness they never know mercy and when people buy these products they are unwittingly supporting that type of cruelty in that type of callousness the workers they have to lose part of their heart you know they have to lose they have to shut their eyes to certain aspects of what they’re doing can you imagine what it would be like to cut the throats of animals for eight hours a day it’s a bloody violent job and nobody should have to do it I don’t know what it means that you know we can participate in such cruelty without paying attention to it without caring about it without wanting to do different citizens want to assume that animals will be treated humanely that there are laws on the books to prevent cruelty and people are usually surprised to learn there aren’t if people looked at what was happening they’d be appalled most people would not support the type of abuse that has become common on factory farms the common response is why is this happening there’s a very simple explanation for why it why it does happen if you were to walk outside right now if you walk down us one and walk further down let’s say you came to a restaurant that just opened up right they were serving cats and dogs that was their main item on the menu how many of you would be out there right now protesting guarantee before the day would be over you would have that place shut down right walk down the street few blocks down you’ll come to a steak house I don’t see anybody protesting I don’t see that place being shut down why because because we’ve been taught to perceive this animal to be different from this animal and veganism is simply changing your perception that’s it that’s all it is you just change your perception we don’t have to participate in this this is not necessary a lot of people will say to me what about you know if we just created better conditions what I’m saying to you is it’s not necessary to kill an animal you don’t have to kill animals we don’t have to drink their milk enough to eat their eggs it’s just not necessary I mean people talk about humane slaughter how do you how do you slaughter something humanely and then said like when you rub their belly give them some milk and cookies and you chop their head off if I did that to one of you would everybody like well at least he died humanely he can’t do anything violent he mainly I mean if I were to actually mainly rob you humanely rape you what is what is humane theft look like is that where I come up to you and say need you to do me a favor I need you to come up here and take your wallet put it on the table right here take all the credit cards cash everything put it on the table right there pretty please with a cherry on top would that be humane theft we would everybody be like hey if I’m going to get robbed I want him to do it he’s pretty nice about it of course nobody wants to be robbed nobody wants to be killed nobody wants to be raped it’s not necessary to think about it this way how many of you do not do not own a fur coat raise your head if you don’t don’t own a fur coat yeah so I thought why why don’t you in fur coat because it’s cruel and unnecessary because it’s cruel and unnecessary what about if I said to you know what we’re going to take some mix sorry we’re gonna raise them for you no fur coat we’re going to make we’re gonna raise them but we’re gonna we’re gonna you know give them a lot of room we’re going to cage free free range organic food they’re going to do they’re going to live like kings and queens until we kill them of course you know after after a few few weeks a few months you know they won’t live to their natural age but we’re going to create humane fur would that be acceptable when you go out and buy a fur coat no because it’s not necessary a fur coat is not necessary especially here in Florida but it’s not necessary anywhere you don’t need a fur coat to survive you don’t need the animals to survive it’s not necessary it’s just sugar coating something humane slaughter so let’s take a look at what we are participating in this is a battery cage all right literally the size of a milk crate just like this you take four to six hands you put them in a crate this size and you burn their beaks off why because in these conditions they become aggressive you know be like if I took everybody in the first and second row put you in that corner and sealed it off kept you there for you know 48 hours straight guarantee you’re not going to remain friends for that long you want more space so they’re denied the ability to do what’s natural to them spread their wings forage so how does the under seat industry solve this problem cage free free range and that sounds pretty good who in this room doesn’t want to live free right this is a cage free farm in Virginia it’s just a label it’s just the label it makes us feel better about what we’re participating in but it means absolutely nothing to the animal cage free simply means you can take five hundred hens and put them in this room according to the industry that is cage free question is what is your definition of freedom does this apply now even on the you know old MacDonald’s farm that we all have stuck in our head even if you find that magical farm and good luck finding it doesn’t matter because all male chicks born in the egg industry thrown out literally why seems kind of wasteful why threw out the male chicks they don’t fit into the equation they’ll serve any purpose to the industry so we cage them we D beat them we still catch them call call it freedom though we can still debeak them in these conditions and we throw out all the mail tricks whether it’s cage free free range organic what’s in the wrong way all so that we could have this well might as well get to know what it is was an egg a lot of people think it’s a baby chick it’s not a baby chick a lot of people think it’s a fetus it’s not a fetus not an embryo just good I mean I don’t know why anybody want to eat a fetus or an embryo in the first place so what is it well it’s an unfertilized egg that doesn’t sound that bad at all all right well once a month that every woman in this room or maybe not everyone in this room sheds or at some point sheds an unfertilized egg what is that called congratulations meeting a hen period it’s the menstruation cycle discharge of a hen I’m not gonna eat a woman’s period just like why should I have a hen period there’s no need to eat any period from any living being it’s disgusting and you know we should call it what it is I mean if we were just you know at the when we were young when we were kids and you know our parents at hey you want some scrambled hen periods for breakfast then I’ll pass you know it’s like honey what is honey yeah it’s vomit it’s regurgitate throw up they throw up for themselves they take the nectar they digest it and they throw up it’s for their own cells they’re not producing it for us we call it honey because who in their right mind we want to buy a product called bee vomit and you know you put vomit next to any any product in the supermarket I guarantee it’s not going to sell let’s take a business aspect to realize that all right what about milk well even your happy cows in California hooked up the machines this is this is the way it is all right now when does a cow start producing milk during during pregnancy starts lactating during pregnancy right that’s why I’ve been to a lot of schools and I’ll get even high school teachers who will say huh I didn’t know that I just thought there was this magical cow that just produced milk okay all ho mammals produce milk when they’re pregnant and how does she become pregnant ah like we like to think they get to have sex right at the very least they get the pleasure of sex but there’s no sex in the farm the farmer is not going to wait for a cow on a bull to get it on he’s not going to set the mood like some candles put on Barry White is the business he’s running a business you know and the business is not in the welfare of the animals and producing a profit so how do you get a cow pregnant without a bull artificially inseminate them if you know artificially inseminate a woman without a consent won’t that be called I am NOT saying a woman is a cow but I am saying rape is rape I mean just look up the definition of rape exert in your power over another sexually so what’s your definition of another does that only apply to women how about men how about other beings well now she’s pregnant she gives birth what happens to her baby all male calves born in the dairy industry like the if you were here in the beginning the saving Billy all male calves born in the dairy industry are immediately taken away from their mother chained by the neck to a crate deprived of the mother’s milk fed an inefficient diet so that the body become anemic so lack of iron they will never be able to turn around will never see the light of day every glass of milk supports this industry and some people say well veal is the cruelest industry or foie-gras where they shove a pipe down a duck’s throat cruelest industry how do you how do you put pain in some kind of like okay well it’s pretty bad right here but it’s not so bad here pain is pain suffering is suffering don’t categorize it this is all suffering for these animals why do they do that to the male calves just like the male chicks they don’t fit into the equation they don’t produce the milk if you’re drinking cow’s milk the only reason is because a calf chained to a box isn’t now what about the female calves they too will be taken away from the mother why why would why would the female calf that will grow up to be like her mother which is a constant of impregnation birth and milking why would she be taken away from the mother right and we want the milk how do you think it makes a cow feel to have her baby to run away from her anybody was a parent how would you feel if you had your baby to run away from you all milk whether it’s organic meaning they don’t put in you know the hormones and the pesticides doesn’t matter all milk is stress milk it’s not something you pasteurize out of the milk it’s part of it it’s part of the it’s like it’s part of the meat part of the part of the cheese it’s part of what you’re drinking it’s stress now biologically speaking who was a cow producing milk for biologically speaking the baby not for us just like you know when your mom was pregnant with you who she producing milk for it was for you it wasn’t your daddy it wasn’t the neighbor it wasn’t the dog or the cat it was for you all mammals produce milk for their young where do all these animals get their milk from when do they stop consuming milk we’re the only species on this planet to take the milk from another animal and we’re their only species on this planet to continue drinking milk after infancy if you really don’t think it’s that weird then people like people say well you don’t you don’t eat cheese she’s just spoiled milk you don’t need you don’t need cheese you don’t drink cow’s milk that’s that’s extreme that’s crazy is it really that extreme to not take the milk from another animal I mean and if you don’t think it’s that extreme if I brought a pregnant woman into the room right now how many of you would want to drink your milk you’re not you’re not you’re not a baby it is extreme now if cow’s milk is meant for a calf if cow’s milk is biologically meant for a calf why would it be necessary for humans to drink it’s not cow’s milk is no more necessary than drinking dog milk chip milk pig milk or elephant milk the only milk you need was from your mother when you were a baby you’re not a baby anymore you’re not a cow you’re not a calf well what about if I said to you you know you’re walking in Publix Whole Foods winn-dixie maybe we’re in Dixie more likely and you come across not cow milk but chimpanzee milk that’s that’s why I said winn-dixie fentanyl fancy travellingtans I just I don’t I can’t picture well I don’t know maybe whole food but um alright so chimpanzee milk right how many of you would buy it probably not that’s disgusting why would it be disgusting to take the milk from one animal but not the disgusting to take the milk from another animal in fact if you’re drinking cow’s milk and you find chimpanzee no guide say make the switch it makes more sense why would it make more sense to take the milk of a chimpanzee hey look if you’re going to take the milk from any animal wouldn’t you want to take the milk from an animal that shares 98% of our DNA 99% I mean doesn’t that seem to be the logical conclusion I choose you that would seem the logical conclusion what about your dog if your dog was pregnant right now and i said i’ll pasteurize your dog’s milk but you want to drink it that’s disgusting that’s absurd it is disgusting and absurd no more disgusting absurd than drinking cow’s milk though in fact if you have a dog it actually makes more sense to drink dog milk the cow milk why is that well how many of you have a large dog okay how much does your dog weigh 110 Wow okay no doubt we’re gonna dog there we go all right 110 pounds that’s pretty close to the human weight right under 10 pounds that seems to make sense this animal weighs 2,000 pounds why put a product meant for a 2000 pound animal into this and a baby doesn’t even know why all right a baby on average weighs 7 pounds at birth I really don’t know where I’m supposed to be pointing this it’s like a magical wand there we go um a calf weighs 90 pounds at birth at birth 90 pounds baby 7 pounds calf 90 pounds the calf will grow to 500 pounds in under a year in 9 months 410 pounds in under a year what makes them grow so large so fast the milk but of course they’re not getting the milk and if it’s not organic what are they getting hormones they’re getting steroids again that’s not something you pasteurize out of the milk and how do you keep animals healthy in these conditions you pump them up with antibiotics 70 percent of the antibiotics produced in the United States are fed to farm animals that’s not good that is not good you know you wonder why so many people are dying in the hospitals they get some infection and they take these antibiotics and they don’t work anymore so how do we how do we justify how do we actually justify putting a product meant for a 2000 pound animal they grow to 2,000 pounds in two years into this well the story once again the story justifies the action say it enough times you convince yourself it’s the truth every story has an author who is the author of this story right and what is the ultimate goal of the dairy industry I mean why would the dairy be in the dairy industry be some holier than thou company I mean if I said to you cigarettes it does a body good you probably say I work for the cigarette company right we none of us would believe that but I believe this and if you believe that milk does a body good why would 75 percent of the human population be lactose intolerant do you know that means that means three out of every four people in this planet when they drink milk they suffer one of these symptoms diarrhea stomach ache gassiness bloated ear infection excess mucus and that’s normal if you suffer from any of these symptoms stop drinking cow’s milk your body’s trying to talk to you your body’s saying look I can’t do it anymore stop listen to your body your body knows best of course the dairy industry will come up with a new product called what lactate they just they just they just put they put the enzyme you see the reason why most people are lactose intolerant is because all mammals and human beings are mammals have an enzyme known as lactase put an A right there that enzyme breaks down the sugar known as lactose as we mature we lose that enzyme so it’s normal to be lactose intolerant but of course the dairy industry starts injecting the enzyme into it that’s not normal that’s not natural and again you’re going against what your body is telling you you know the dairy industry says listen to us we know better than your body they don’t your body knows best you are your best doctor but it must be good for kids though right I mean cuz every school I’ve been into elementary middle and high school is all one product being served what product is that no but what’s the number one cause of food allergies among and children everyone take a wild guess no alright so if most people on this planet can’t consume milk and most people most children and infants are if they have an allergy it’s it’s from milk cows milk and not not peanuts but cow’s milk why again are we drinking this what what have we been told drink milk gets strong bones does a body good what does about it good calcium does a body good the question is is this the best source of calcium let’s find out countries that consume the most milk what countries drink the most milk I go into classrooms and you get kids in like Florida all right Norway would be on this list as well what is osteoporosis it’s a loss of bone density it’s literally weak bones remember you’ve been taught drink cow’s milk get strong bones what countries have the highest rate of osteoporosis all right well neither is just a random coincidence or there’s more to it the more to it is this any product that comes from an animal has animal protein that makes sense animal product animal protein well that animal protein you knows protein is the amino acids the building blocks of protein those amino acids which are good unfortunately though they’re high in sulfur so you want amino acids but the problem with animal protein is that those amino acids are high in sulfur when you put that in your body your body becomes acidic you’re making your body acidic and your body’s not meant to be acidic it’s meant to be alkaline right the pH balance is going lower than what it should be so how does your body compensate well they have to neutralize the acidity so what do they do they start releasing calcium from the bones so the more cow’s milk you drink according to these statistics the weaker your bones can actually become the more animal protein you eat the weaker your bones can actually become in fact if you look at countries in Africa and Asia they don’t suffer from very high rates of osteoporosis they also don’t drink very much cow’s milk if none at all and they also don’t eat as much animal protein now kids will say yeah but wait a second what do I put on my cereal table himself right it’s because this information isn’t it’s out there but people aren’t being taught it and this is you know this is basically the alternative perspective and you know you can do your own research and find out if what I’m saying is valid or not but I mean you can go with these alternative milks and a lot of people out fake meats and fake milks no they’re not fake they’re real all right these are real products and they come from plants you have the soy milk the almond milk rice milk coconut milk oat milk you can do hemp milk high in protein so these are alternatives that you can do I know you’ve all heard of a taste test right let’s do a health test all right so here we have the milk that comes from an animal and here we have the milk that comes from a plant a soybean all right there is a hundred and fifty milligrams of calcium per half a glass in your cow’s milk how many do you think is in your soy milk it’s the same 150 it’s exact same and a half glass all right so what’s the difference well this comes from an animal and once again an animal protein can leach calcium out of the bones and all animal products meat dairy eggs fish is high in cholesterol it has cholesterol and your body naturally makes cholesterol you don’t need to put any more Klesko in your body so this has cholesterol this does it all plant products don’t have any cholesterol and all plant products everything you see up here of everything you see over there on the table fruits vegetables rice beans has fiber has fiber so plants have fiber in your cholesterol animal products no fiber and high in cholesterol so let again let’s do a health test high in cholesterol no fiber high in fiber no cholesterol which one do you think is the safer choice I rest my case all right but you don’t have to do this I mean human beings don’t really need to drink anything besides water and that’s really all we need to be drinking and you can have your orange juice and your apple juice but we just need water now again this is for this cereal but you can get all your calcium from plants I mean you think about what is the largest and strongest land animal on earth an elephant weighs 10,000 pounds you know what is diet consists of right that’s it no if he’s eating spinach but it’s his plants it’s plants you’re gonna tell now ephant daddy you know his bones look a little weak he needs to be drinking the milk of a cow you get all your calcium from this now a lot of people say to me ah man but you know what I get it but then I I love my cheese I can’t give up cheese look I tell people this if you’re going to give up any product give up dairy there is the worst I mean the greatest trick ever pulled was convincing people they need to drink milk dairy is the worst in terms of the cruelty inflicted upon the animals they suffer for a longer period of time and it’s just completely unnatural and unhealthy is unhealthy and there’s a reason why people love their cheese and their milk it’s meant to be addictive I mean just think about you know it might be hard I can’t remember but you know when we were younger most likely we were nursing from our mother right from her milk it has to be addictive the child wants that has to want to have more why because this is the greatest growth spurt in their life this is the greatest growth spurt that you ever had when you were baby drinking your mother’s milk same for all their animals and as we get older our parents including the animal parents wean their children off of it so you’re supposed to you’re supposed to desire it you’re supposed to want it and then you get weaned off of it they’re selling a product it’s addictive it’s addictive it has a chemical called casein morphine when you digest it that chemical is released okay so morphine morphine it makes you giddy it makes you want more it makes your brain think eat more eat more your body is saying I can’t I can’t digest it properly so you are addicted the first step to what a recovery is to acknowledge it 68% of all disease in the United States are diary related is a government statistic what that means is that you know especially when I talk to a high school class where my audience is you know 99 percent eating meat dairy and eggs if you don’t change your food choices you might become part of the statistic I mean it’s what three out of every five people this is a government statistic in fact what are the leading causes of death in the United States what are the top three cancer heart disease strokes diabetes number six all right every forty seconds somebody suffers a stroke in the United States that’s the American Stroke Association the American Heart Association says that every 24 seconds somebody suffers a heart attack in the United States and the Institute for cancer research says that every day 3400 people in the United States are diagnosed with cancer at 3,400 a new people how many people in this room know somebody or knew somebody who has or had cancer raise your hand take a look around shoot this is know we find it a little disturbing I mean we might be living longer but we’re living longer with diseases that haven’t been around that that that they’re more rampant than they ever have been in fact I’ve been reading that they say that the children today the young generation today will die at a younger age than their parents meaning that you know if your parents live in 275 they might die at 70 and we’re just going down how is that possible in fact is the 68% coming from the image on the right or the left I mean you ever heard of somebody suffering a heart attack because ate too many fruits and vegetables it’s not heard of a key to a healthy diet is a variety of foods in a variety of colors how much variety do you really sit in fact why why is this causing most of the death and disease because despite what we’ve been told despite what we’ve been taught we look nothing like omnivores biologically speaking we don’t look anything like carnivores we look identical biologically speaking to our brother from another mother we look like gorillas we look like the great apes we look like the horses the cows the giraffes the elephants the Zebras how so our teeth not my teeth with canines I love what people say what about our canines really you really think they’re very shot I mean if I if we had like shot canines like our cats and dogs and if you really think you have canine teeth or Schaaf take a look at your cat or dog I mean would we be using knives and forks if we had these right we have more teeth why we chew our food you know tonight when you’re feeding your cat or dog notice what they do Limited chewing mostly swallowing our jaw goes like this we grind our food their jaw opens up wide in fact if you want to know what humane slaughter looks like here it is look at the animal kingdom the fastest land animal is the cheetah go 70 miles per hour now a tiger can go about I think it’s about 3540 miles per hour is pretty quick now you have the deer the antelope the gazelle not as fast right so you have carnivores tiger cheetah Jaguar and then you have the deer antelope and the gazelle so herbivores carnivores now the carnivores are quicker but what’s what’s the difference here we got on the right side all right I guess it would be your left side the carnivores are all the track and field stars quick sprint add a breath they don’t have very much endurance on the left side or again the right side for you this would be the herbivores which don’t have as much speed but have more endurance endurance they are the cross-country runners so what we like to assume or maybe not we don’t like to assume but logic would say okay that the faster animal would always get his prey but that’s not the case it’s not the case because you have track and field versus cross-country so that means that the tiger is only successful in the hunt 20% of the time that means eight out of every ten deer will escape the slaughter so what kind of deer will the tiger be able to capture the sick the weak the injured the lost the old the young this animal weeds out the weak we’re not doing anything like that in fact if we were meant to be on top of the food chain don’t you think we would have some claws to rip through flesh and if I brought a pig into the room and asked you to kill the pig with your claws pig would probably enjoy it more than anything else and this is perhaps most important your intestines and cymbal with my representative small intestines large intestines also known as the colon small and large now your intestines combine large and small make up 10 times your body size your body being your mouth to your anus which is about 3 feet and then by that by 10 and you have 30 feet of intestines in your stomach and it’s you know from this wall through that door 30 feet of intestines in your stomach carnivores omnivores it’s about 3 to 6 times their body length so let’s say that Simba it’d be about you know anywhere from 15 to 20 feet 30 feet 15 feet whose food gets traveled out quicker Simba’s which is good because you can call it bacon as much as you want but once it’s in your body it’s no longer bacon it’s decomposing flesh it’s bacteria and it builds up and they have by the way ten times the amount of hydrochloric acid to break it down so we don’t even have the pH balance of the enzymes that break it down properly so what happens it leads to clogged arteries which leads to heart disease heart attack strokes diabetes high blood pressure high cholesterol and obesity you ever heard of a tiger suffering from high blood pressure high cholesterol strokes obesity you know why these animals don’t suffer from these diseases because they eat what’s natural to their Anatomy when it comes to diet we have the dumbest species on this planet one of these two things have in common mercury in fact there’s a warning label there’s a warning label on fish I don’t know if you ever seen it you know what it says certain people should consume it men and women pregnant women all right hopefully it’s not pregnant man all right pregnant nursing women women who may become pregnant young children should not the following fish including tuna because nearly all fish and seafood contain some amount of mercury chemicals known to cause cancer birth defects and reproductive harm what else does the government tell women not to consume when they’re pregnant alcohol cigarettes drugs so basically government say hey look if you think about becoming pregnant lay off the drugs for a little bit and stop eating fish if we can do that much harm to a woman why would anybody want to consume it and I mean do I really need to you know say at this point do any one of us want to touch any food that comes from the seat mmm all you gotta do is turn on the news open up a newspaper what do you see oil spill why why would you want to put this I mean here’s how it works you take you take a small fish in the Gulf right now right very very small fish that small fish is inevitably going to swallow some oil it’s going to swim further out maybe miles away from from the spill and we’ll get by a larger fish and then that larger fish is now contaminated and will swim out even further and that larger fish will then get eaten by even a larger fish now that even larger fish is contaminated with oil and then we catch that even larger fish and then we eat it cooking the animal is not going to get rid of the oil it becomes part of the meat so why do we consume it though why do we consume you know this this this flesh of an animal what you’ve been told you need to eat meat to get protein protein all right but how many grams of protein are we supposed to get anybody know okay in terms of grams per day it’d be about World Health Organization says forty to fifty about that forty would be for the average female don’t man would be for the average male don’t but it’s funny how we don’t tell that to kids I mean I only learned this recently myself too I mean you know going through my whole life and never really bothering to find out and nobody ever bothered to tell me it’s like you know saying here have the keys to my car go you know pick up some stuff from me go get my groceries but I didn’t teach you how to drive the car teaching kids you gotta eat it but not teaching him how or how much now again let me show you how easy it is to get protein all right especially here in the United States all right your standard American diet for breakfast you got your bacon you got your cow’s milk and you got your hen periods all right how many slices how many slices of bacon what you want now I know you might not eat bacon now but how many slices do you remember as a kid maybe maybe two okay each slice has 5 grams two times five all right how many eggs would you want to each egg has six grams so what do we got twelve plus ten 22 how many glass of milk one glass each glass is eight grams so you are at what 30 you’re not even done with breakfast that’s not including the toast with cow butter you might put on it so you’re not even done with breakfast and you’re almost at the limit the average American does not need to worry about getting enough protein they need to worry about getting too much protein that’s why the United States has the highest rates of obesity in the entire world all right I mean people all the time say change well you don’t need me where do you get your protein from like all of a sudden like holy like it’s all wasn’t dawned on me like I have been without protein for the last eight years go to McDonald’s get a Big Mac huh like I’m about to fall down or something or pass out have you ever heard of somebody in the United States suffering from a lack of protein and going to the hospital it’s unheard of yeah it’s funny even dealing with kids you know I have a kid say you know I tried to go vegan for a day and I got really sick so what it’s like it’s like it’s like you know like people they all I know somebody who was vegan it was sick really I know tons of meat eaters were sick I mean like yeah you can be an unhealthy vegan what I’m telling you is it doesn’t matter if you’re eating meat dairy eggs fish or you’re eating a plant-based that you should know what you’re putting in your body you should know how how many grams of protein you’re getting you knows you know the amount of iron calcium that you’re getting and by the way people say omega-3 from fish you can get that from you know the seeds the nuts you can get that from other things flax seeds is a very good example think about this these are the largest and strongest land animals on earth what is their diet consists of plants you’re in good company if you’re only in plants and what’s full what’s so ironic about this is that the large and strongest land animals not only do they not just just eat a plant-based diet they also live the longest I mean this animal can live to 70 years they can live to about 50 to 60 years the gorillas about 50 years in the wild and their diet consists of nothing but plants you’re gonna tell any of them they’re missing out in protein I mean this animal has 10 times the upper-body strength of the average male adult and where is he getting all his protein from from this his diet consists of roots shoots bamboo and banana he’s getting all his calcium all his iron all his vitamins all his minerals the amino acids from this you get everything everything here’s a new food pyramid right it’s two things your body is like a machine okay think of your body as a machine you have to put the proper fuels in it to get it to work properly if you don’t put the proper fuels it ain’t going to work and if you put fuels that aren’t as good quality of the others that will lead to heart disease cancers strokes diabetes obesity high blood pressure high cholesterol it’s like if you take a Porsche and you fill it up with diesel what happens you just you just screwed the car up right and I guarantee what are people going to say to you when you say heaven I I put diesel in my car today you know what they’re gonna say to you I guarantee it is it is wrong with you no offense when somebody puts a hamburger in their mouth nobody say what the is wrong stop stop all right you get everything all right I know I said pick up your body is machine now think of your body as a house I love I love analogies think of your body as a house right to build a house you got to start with a foundation you can’t start with the roof here’s the foundation this is the foundation this is where all that starts the fruits and vegetables key to a healthy diet variety of foods a variety of colors you get everything from this right and then you build your walls with legumes the beans and you got the whole grains the wheat the pasta the spaghetti the rice the breads and on top your roof you got your nuts and seeds you can get everything from this everything all your vitamins a b c vitamin D from the Sun you get all your calcium all your iron your omega-3 all your protein the amino acids everything from this everything now I know I’m a skinny white dude with glasses telling you get enough protein but these guys aren’t skinny only one of them’s white so as you can see these guys their diet consists of no meat no dairy no eggs no fish there might be some variations that you know Tony Gonzalez he might be eating fish you know I don’t don’t hold me to it but I know Prince Fielder who is your 2009 homerun King Home Run Derby king no meat no dairy yet no eggs no fish mac danzig who fights in the Ultimate Fighter hit season one champion UFC fighter no meat no dairy no eggs no fish so you can still excel at you know your sports you can still gain muscle mass on a plant-based diet again just remember the gorillas so what do they eat instead of dairy you know everything everything you know a meat-eater a dairy eater I eat I eat as well it just comes in plant form no cruelty involved no hot you know no cholesterol high in fiber and these are all the processed food this is the transition food this is where you go when you go from eating meat you know and you make that switch instead of poultry get it beef garden burger veggie burger right here what you see up here this is one of the best items on the market again not like the healthiest food in the world but certainly better than your meat this is called the riblets now you know I want you to try it you haven’t tried this go to Publix Whole Foods you can get all this food at Publix and Whole Foods it’s really amazing if you if you try it out on you know your family you know tell them it’s meat you know I’d love to see the response they give it really is good stuff and remember all meat dairy and egg products go through a process all right it doesn’t just magically form in this case the process involves killing cooking pasteurization refrigeration freezing and we cannot forget the all-important seasoning I mean I remember going to McDonald’s as a child and I didn’t just get a slab of meat you know its slab of meat had herbs and spices put into it was put on a grill cooked and then it came to me with a bun lettuce tomatoes ketchup mustard and onions and a pickle what all those things made out of plants we put condiment spice and herbs on the meat to make it taste better in fact what would meat be without plants just be a dead animal be a carcass on your plate would be no different from roadkill so the word of the day is vegan and the vegan is somebody who chooses not to eat any meat dairy eggs or fish and again how is this extreme how is it extreme not to be drinking the milk of any other species how is it extreme not to be eating hen periods how is it extreme to not be participating in a system that unnecessarily kills animals a lot of kids say man think even after all this they’re still like what do I eat as a vegan now all these products are vegan there’s no meat no dairy no eggs but this is all crap this is unhealthy this the junk food vegan and you know kids get all excited all right I’m going vegan I just nothing it’s like god only knows what the town the fans um you know if your die consists of nothing but Oreos skittles airheads fritos sour patch kids and big league chew you’re gonna die this is unhealthy I don’t know if kids hear that but you know all right I’m gonna live on a healthier note you know you have your spam with eggs I have my scrambled tofu pancakes you’ll have to use cow milk use soy milk oat milk rice milk almond milk coconut milk hemp milk fruits and vegetables spaghetti pasta refried beans even have vegan sour cream guacamole comes from the avocado the soy cheese rice cheese they even they’ll have this magical cheese I get to in a sec veggie burger veggie dog cupcakes you they have egg replacers we don’t have them up here so you can replace the eggs with bananas applesauce even you can use soy milk oat milk more flour water coconut milk ice cream one of the best ice creams in the world again not healthy but you know healthier than cow milk ice cream you know I’ve always said to people that if you can put a man or a woman on the moon how hard is it to make a cheese that doesn’t come from a cow or you know goat like how is it hard is it to make a vegan cheese well they heard me this is called Daiya cheese actually and it’s great thing is no soy no rice it’s actually made out of tapioca and arrowroot flour I know that’s not making your mouth water but man it is good here’s another example of waiting at your protein from this is a vegan sausage it’s about that big it’s the size of this remote and there’s four in a package each one of these has 29 grams of protein again the healthiest food you can eat is the whole foods I don’t mean the supermarket I mean the fruits the vegetables the rice the beans you know stuff that’s fresh that’s not processed I’m the last thing I do want to show you is another video there’s a happier video and this is the whole idea of change in perception I know I’m keeping your Jesus longer than you probably wanted but um it’s a really beautiful story and I hope you enjoy it you you you there she is beautiful girl she was tagged for slaughter and that would have been her face but she wanted to live and so she literally ran for her life and now she’ll live out her life is sanctuary it’s interesting how the public responds when one individual animal you know makes a run for her life they end up making headlines on national news people’s hearts go out to this one individual animal the cruelty that that happens to farm animals is largely hidden you know behind factory farm walls and people aren’t aware of it when you look in her eyes you know everyone wants the best for her once they get to know her and when people are able to identify with an individual and look her in the eye and see that she’s a living feeling being who has a will to live then people care I’ve been working here with Animal Care and Control for almost nine years this morning was really astonishing to me all of a sudden it dawned on me the sweet innocent cow running away from being slaughtered and I never even thought about it before that something is actually being slaughtered and it’s my ground beef and it’s my tongue and stuff like that and we’ve been eating there some years I never pictured that face on that yeah and it hurt I can’t do that so now we won’t work on not eating me me and my entire family cuz I’m realizing that the Select had saved today and when my family will be saving a couple of more banks she’ll take she’s about a year old absolutely beautiful Hereford and those unfortunately are cows of the years for me she’s most likely at a live market and because they have very strong will to live like any living creature she godless she had a will to live and she did it where she’s going now she’s gonna have like cows of her own greedy she’s gonna be so happy when the trailer arrives gets the cows in the herd remove yeah they may will move in a big line everybody lines up they will start moving to comfort her and to tell her that they’re there and she will move out and look at any animal any creature has a strong will to live she’s an ambassador for all animals who are still suffering and and if you don’t don’t have such a such a lucky all people love a happy ending and it’s happy I see that like 100 times I still get goosebumps it’s simple you know it’s unnecessary it doesn’t have to be this way you change your perception you change the story that’s all it is it’s just the changing of the story and we can’t wait for other people to do it we have to do it ourselves every animal wants to live every animal wants to live and no animal wants to experience pain if you guys want more information you can always email me at James at arc dot org you can visit our website for all this information a RFS org we’re giving these presentations throughout the year this is obviously every last sunday of the month I give these presentations here at sublime 5:30 6:30 I know we’re gone over but also we go to juvenile detention centers we go to high schools we do other many different presentations on different subjects as well right now I’m spending most of my time in camps it’s been very nice not to have to say if you can hear my voice clap once don’t put that in 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Vegan Communication: How to either Damage or Empower the Vegan Movement – Melanie Joy

[UltraVid id=128 ]We need to stop reproducing the toxic perfectionism and the toxic communication of the dominant culture veganism was established you know in order to offset these toxic attitudes and behaviors that are normal in the dominant culture and we can do better thank you how are you I know it’s amazing to be here in a sea of vegans a roomful a large room completely packed with people working to make the world a better place for animals nothing inspires me more so thank you so much and I love having the opportunity to stand up in front of a group of vegans who are often so committed and working so hard to make the world a better place for animals and being able to share good news like how the vegan movement is growing exponentially all over the world which it is the movement is growing all over the world and that’s amazing today I’m actually going to talk about something else that’s growing and it’s growing within the vegan movement and this is a virus of sorts it is a virus that is contagious it is debilitating and it can be potentially even deadly but in this there is also good news because when we recognize this virus then we with awareness of this virus then we’re in a position to prevent it from spreading to reverse its course and ultimately to heal our movement and the virus I’m talking about today is toxic communication among vegans now before I talk about toxic communication and define it what exactly it is I’m going to just show you a few examples can you see this to read yourselves is it people in the back large enough on the screen okay I had a lot of examples to choose from unfortunately and just chose four of them to give you a sense of some of the problems we talking about today and I’m just curious before moving on how many of you have witnessed toxic communication this is vegan TV okay I didn’t even finish the question and all the hands went up like so you know what I’m talking about and this is a really serious problem in the moment in the movement there are countless vegans who have been the target of toxic communication myself included I have in fact talked to vegan after Ving and after vegan some of them who are brilliant leaders brilliant organizational leaders who have shared with me these deeply painful stories of how they were targets of toxic communication some of them actually felt like they couldn’t even continue in their careers as vegans and in fact in my experience and in my observation more vegans or at least a lot of vegans end up leaving the movement not because they can’t stand the width they can’t withstand the pressure of the dominant karna stick culture but because of this sense of betrayal and demoralisation that they feel when they’re attacked by their own people by other vegans how many of you can relate to this or have seen this before felt this yourself this feeling of being betrayed by the people who are supposed to understand the most so this is a serious problem and I’m going to talk now first for a few minutes about what exactly I mean when I refer to toxic communication no toxic communication is any communication that violates our integrity and harms the dignity of others and I’m going to define this for you so integrity is the integration of core moral values such as compassion and justice and practices it’s practicing what we preach we violate our integrity whenever we can eunuch eight in a way that doesn’t reflect compassion and justice makes sense dignity is one sense of intrinsic worth we feel a sense of dignity when we feel that we are fundamentally worthy as beings on this planet when we feel like we’re not less than or less worthy honor on a basic fundamental level than others so we violate another’s dignity whenever we communicate that they are somehow less than particularly when we shame them so when we shame so many we are communicating that they are less worthy than shame is an incredibly toxic emotion in fact it is arguably one of the most if not the most damaging and destructive of all human emotion so I want to talk briefly about this emotion for a minute and I want to start out by differentiating shame and guilt very often people use these terms interchangeably but there is a difference between them does anybody here know what the difference is you want to shout it out what is it what is guilt what’s the definition of guilt so maybe guilt is what you feel and shame is what you think others think about you well it can be that way but that’s not exactly the definition anybody else want to give it a go guilt comes from inside shame comes from outside but we can shame ourselves and other people can cause us to feel guilty actually so the difference is that guilt is how we feel about our behaviors right we feel guilty when we think to ourselves I did something bad shame is how we feel about what exactly ourselves we feel ashamed when we think I am bad so shame is the feeling of being less than and more specifically it’s the shame of being less worthy than and as I said it is one of the dis disruptive and destructive of all human emotions most of us carry around a great deal of shame already because we’ve been born into a deeply dysfunctional profoundly non-relational screwed-up world that shames us on an ongoing basis we have not learned how to relate to one another in a basically compassionate healthy and relational way and so a lot of our communication a lot of our interactions are shaming most of us carry around a lot of shame and most of us understandably are deeply defended against feeling further shame we protect ourselves from being further shamed in a variety of ways and we hide our shame from others and also from ourselves we bury our shame underneath our many successes we hide it within being the best activists the best employee the most beautiful person we can be etc etc we work on hiding our shame from others and ourselves we pretend that we’re not ashamed be cut to ourselves because many of us have learned to feel ashamed of being ashamed I often say that one of the best ways to get somebody to do the opposite of what you want them to do is to shame them shamed people are not people who are thinking about taking Pro or feel capable of taking positive action on behalf of others or themselves or themselves shamed people ourself are in defense mode they are working to prevent being further shamed they wrap themselves in the emotional armor to keep themselves safe shamed people typically withdraw or attack in self-defense so we have this epidemic of shame and this epidemic of shame shaming behaviors and this epidemic of hiding our shame from ourselves and yet many of us continue to use shame believing that it’s actually going to motivate people to change often the opposite is is more likely to happen when people feel shamed studies have shown when people feel that their dig is not being honored they become defensive they exhibit a stress response this means that they’re in kind of quasi fight-or-flight mode sometimes it’s strong sometimes it’s weaker what they do what people do when they’re in defensive mode is they become less rational they have less access to their rationality and they also become less empathic they’re not going to be empathically connected to somebody who’s shaming them and when you think about a lot of communication vegan communication what do you notice communicating to non vegans a lot of our tactics right are shaming and when we communicate with one another a lot of our communication is in fact shaming and this is not only unproductive but it’s deeply profoundly counterproductive shame is also contagious when we shame others we increase the likelihood that they will go out and shame others as well as a way of managing shame one way that people manage feeling less than is looking for others who they can make feel less than they are makes sense so shame is contagious and in fact toxic communication is contagious studies have shown for example that being exposed to just one incident of rude behavior like reading an insulting email can cause people to reproduce this these negative behaviors studies have also shown that for every hurtful interaction we have it takes at least five positive Owen’s to offset the harm done to our mood and the drain done to our energy so this is this is a one to five ratio that’s significant studies all have also shown that people automatically mimicked the facial expressions tone and postures of others as do spectators to the encounter so if somebody is behaving in a toxic way even the people who are on lookers will mimic these facial expressions and behaviors and when we see people making negative or hurtful expressions such as frowning or glaring we actually feel angry or worse ourselves so toxic communication which is the primary expression of toxic toxic communic behaviors is contagious now just imagine the impact of toxic communication when it’s expressed not just one to one but to hundreds or thousands of others as when somebody is on a stage or somebody is posting on Facebook and imagine the increase in this impact when that individual is in a position of leadership or authority so those of us who are in positions of leadership have a responsibility to use our influence to offset rather than reinforce this toxicity it is incredibly important that we are careful with what we are modeling and how we are communicating this toxic communication in our movement is creating an epidemic of suffering and it is doing tremendous harm and damage to vegans to vegan organizations and also to the vegan movement now there have been interesting studies done on toxic behaviors in the workplace and I’m going to share with you some of these findings there are more that I could share but I couldn’t fit them on the slide some of the costs of our toxic communication within a workplace setting so this could be easily extrapolated or applied to a vegan organization and of course to the vegan movement as a whole so these are just some of the results of toxic communication in a workplace setting and I’m not going to read them out you can just read them yourself is any of this familiar to you in some of your work your organization’s your groups your interactions and what’s interesting is that these problems are not only problems that are experienced by the direct recipient of toxic communication but the indirect victims which are the first or second hand witnesses to these toxic communications are also impacted in a similar way so the indirect victims are either people who are on lookers who are actually directly witnessing the interaction or people who somebody who’s been hurt tells later at the end of the day so if you experience this for example with your you know volunteer group and you go home and you tell your partner about it then your partner can also be impacted in a negative way from hearing this studies have also found that just one person who engages in toxic behaviors in a group reduces the group’s performance performance by between thirty and forty percent just think about that number for a moment in a movement that needs all of the energy and all of the resources it can get to address this massive massive global problem of animal harm and suffering studies have found researchers estimated that the financial costs alone of a toxic workplace and a toxic workplace they looked at which they defined as having 15% of employees engaging in toxic interactions if you have a staff of a thousand and 15 percent of them engage in toxic interactions the cost is over two million dollars so let’s think about what some of these numbers might mean if we applied them to a vegan sorry a vegan organization in the vegan movement so let’s assume you know let’s say we’re talking about an organization of a hundred people the cost would be about two hundred thousand dollars in lost productivity let’s say we’re talking about an organization of ten people which is even more common in among vegan organizations the cost in lost productivity would be about twenty thousand dollars and let’s look at what this means in terms of harm to animals when we’re talking about an efficient vegan organization an efficient vegan organization is estimated to be able to spare one animal for every $1 spent so let’s look at the cost to the animals in an efficient vegan organization in an organization or an efficient vegan organization of ten people this is 20,000 animals who were not spared who could have been in a larger organization of a hundred people this would be two hundred thousand animals who were not spared whose lives might otherwise have been now even if these estimates are wildly off even if there are 80% higher than they should be this is twenty percent too many animals then most vegans would ever be comfortable with an imperfect but perhaps useful analogy is to think of farmed animals being in a sinking ship and their main hope of survival is a lifeboat that’s person to buy vegans every toxic communication is like shooting a hole in the bottom of the animals lifeboat this is a problem that we can’t afford to leave unaddressed now I’m gonna actually talk about how to address this what are some specific actions we can take but first I’m going to just briefly talk about what causes what has caused this epidemic of toxic interaction in the first place there are a lot of reasons I’m actually writing about those separately but I’m just going to name a few of the ones that I think are most important to be aware of right now one reason is because most communication today is online and it’s a lot easier to be mean to somebody if you’re not looking them in the eye and we know that so whenever possible a really simple step we can take is to communicate with a person face to face even if it’s a person we only know through Facebook we can ask them to meet us on video chat instead of having a battle that everybody can look on to I’m a battle of comments another reason is because the broader emotional and intellectual climate you know the intellectual and emotional climate of the broader culture has become toxic so toxic communications have become so normal as to be unremarkable I I am constantly surprised at how everyday communication which is so so often so shaming and so harmful is just not even noticeable to so many people so this is a problem that goes beyond the vegan movement of course and the third reason that I’ll mention today is because in many movements and particularly in the vegan movement there are high rates of traumatization we live in the midst of a global atrocity that is carnism a global atrocity is a mass traumatic event and when we are living in the midst of a mass traumatic event it is very difficult if not impossible to become at least somewhat traumatized by this traumatized by the reality of what’s happening in the world that we happen to be aware of and a lot of the graphic imagery that many of us have witnessed many of us in the movement have what’s referred to as stsd secondary traumatic stress disorder how many of you here have heard of stsd I’m just curious I give a talk on it a few years ago so maybe some of you are at that maybe some of you have how many of you know PTSD post-traumatic stress disorder okay so this is like what combat veterans experience sometimes stsd is exactly like PTSD except with one key difference does anyone know what that difference is exactly stsd impacts the witnesses to the violence rather than the direct victims of the violence so many vegans have stsd and I have a chapter in my new book beyond beliefs specifically about this it’s really important to get informed about it because when we are traumatized to a greater or lesser degree this has an impact on our perceptions our feelings and our behaviors and it is one of the drivers of some of the common toxic communication patterns we see in our movement for example we when we have stsd or even some level of traumatization we can develop what I refer to as a trauma narrative in other words we start to look at the world as though it’s one giant traumatic event with only three roles to be played either you’re a victim if you’re not a victim what are you a perpetrator or a hero and the witness is tricky because a witness can also be a victim or a here a perpetrator depending on how they or a hero depending on how they act so it’s victim perpetrator and hero and the more traumatized we get the more we start to view place everyone including ourselves into one of these roles and plays rigid boundaries in between them like you can’t be both you have to be one or the other and the stronger our emotional reaction are to them so we believe if you’re not a hero like if you’re not a hundred percent vegan a hundred percent of the time then you must be what a perpetrator so we we have this kind of like perfectionism that we’ve started to develop and this is in large part in my opinion because of the level of traumatization many of us have have experienced um when I talk to vegans about trauma and I do very often I talk about the problem of over witnessing the problem of like so many vegans who feel an obligation to continue to watch these graphic movies and to look at these graphic images can you relate to this a bit it’s a lot of vegans feel this way and many tight and these these graphic movies are like feeding the trauma if you already know what’s happening in the world you don’t need to keep watching these things they they can reinforce your traumatic response but many vegans say to me I’ve said to me well I feel guilty not watching I feel like you know if I compared to what the animals go through you know the least I can do is to bear witness to them to watch you know two minutes that they’re suffering the animals don’t need a movement of walking trauma survivors the animals need a movement of healthy self connected people who are able to be in this movement for the long haul and not eventually burn out and over witnessing witnessing more than necessary is one of the key contributors to burnout in the movement vegans often say that they’re afraid that if they stop witnessing if they stop watching these graphic videos then they’ll stop caring they’ll stop wanting to fight the good fight now I’ve never in my career seen that happen in fact I’ve seen the opposite more often where vegans become more moment motivated but they’re motivated not from a place of trauma but from a healthier place inside of themselves it can be helpful to think of your trauma as having a survival instinct as being like an entity a living being with a survival instinct that has taken up residence in your heart and in your mind and it wants to stay alive and the way it keeps itself alive is by convincing you to continue feeding it by continuing to take into more traumatic material so I suggest that you consider giving yourself position to let your trauma go and it might be uncomfortable but see what happens for you when you give yourself permission to let your trauma go you significantly reduce the likelihood that you’ll engage in some of these toxic behaviors and communications that we’ve been talking about and you will have a more sustainable life as an activist and as a person now this combination of this toxic broader intellectual and emotional culture and you know online culture and secondary traumatic stress has led to a culture of this kind of moral perfectionism whereby we hold others and ourselves often to impossible standards like one unexamined statement or one selfish choice or statement you know suddenly make someone bad suddenly makes us the enemy we have no wiggle room to screw up we have no wiggle room to not be perfect and this is a very dangerous state for us to be in the movement the ethos today the ethos that’s like the broader backdrop of the vegan movement and beyond in the broader culture in some ways is one in which we not only tolerate but we also celebrate this moral perfectionism and toxic communication we have learned to rally around those who raise the battlecry of moral righteousness and elevate them put them on this pedestal and to believe that it’s alright to abuse others as long as we’re morally outraged when we’re doing it this is a very dangerous attitude for us to be embracing and research has research on anger and on perceptions of people who are angry has actually shown that we are less rational when it comes to assessing the behaviors of people who are perceived as people who are angry we see people who are expressing anger as more believable as more competent and more intelligent than they actually are so I want to talk for a minute about anger and some of you might be thinking but of course were angry we’re supposed to be angry we’re supposed to be morally outraged look what’s happening in the world so I want to differentiate healthy from unhealthy anger for a minute anger is a normal health –fill legitimate emotion that arises as a response to injustice we need our anger our anger is what makes us take a stand against injustice anger becomes unhealthy or problematic when we become blended when it’s anger that we’re blended with and when it has within it the charge of contempt and I’m going to explain both of these concepts so when we’re blended with our anger it means we don’t see any difference between our anger and ourselves we often express it I am angry as the anger and we are one a more accurate way of expressing anger would be I am feeling angry about or even better a part of me is feeling angry about this because it’s usually a part of us that’s feeling angry not a hundred percent of us so when we’re blended with our anger we are looking at the issue we are looking at the world through the eyes of our anger when we are not blended with our anger we’re still able to be connected with our rational selves with our empathy with our compassion even as we feel our healthy anger does that make sense and problematic anger is anger that has the charge of contempt contempt is the emotion it’s judgement plus hate essentially it’s judgment and anger and hate actually together when we feel contempt what this means is that we have placed ourselves and it’s in a position of moral superiority we are perceiving the other or sometimes ourselves we can feel contempt to ourselves as well all of this communication all of what I’m talking about applies to how we treat and communicate with ourselves as well so when we feel contempt we are perceiving another or ourselves as morally in we’re in some way if we assume that our anger unhealthy anger causes us to adopt this problematic assumption if we assume that our anger gives us license not to practice basic human decency toward others then we can end up feeding rather than fixing the very problem that our anger is trying to transform so we need to be careful to develop enough self-awareness so that we can reflect on ourselves when we’re angry and ask ourselves if we are feeling and using our anger productively or destructively because how we use our anger and how we relate to our anger will make all the difference now let me back up for a minute I want to also point out that anger is healthy anger or not to confuse how we express anger with tone policing you guys have heard this expression tone policing before okay so the idea of well so tone policing is basically telling people that they should not be communicating about an issue if they’re feeling strong emotions around it or if they’re expressing strong emotions around it that’s a problem it’s normal natural and necessary and healthy to feel and express our emotions around issues tone policing is not the same as asking somebody to communicate respectfully when they’re feeling angry so I don’t want to mix up these two concepts so I want to talk briefly about moving beyond this perfectionism before we move into how to communicate in a way that is less toxic or not toxic the first step is in our attitudes we need to appreciate that we have inherited a messy world we have been born into an absolute mess of a world and you guys don’t need me to tell you that you’re all very well aware of this no doubt we have to learn to relate to the world the way the world is rather than the that we wish the world were instead of getting angry that it’s raining take out an umbrella when we relate to the world differently we have to make choices in the world that we have inherited that are very different than the choices we would make in an ideal world we have to learn to live with contradictions in our lives because we don’t have any choice even as we hold people accountable even as we work to change problematic attitudes and behaviors we need to have some wiggle room to appreciate that many people are doing the best they can in a very problematic world maybe you’re a vegan and you feed your sick cats meat because they can’t live on vegan food it’s not possible for them that’s a contradiction you may just have to make your peace with and live with it’s not a contradiction you would have to deal with if the world were ideal we wouldn’t have cats living with us probably in the first place so we need to appreciate that number one perfectionism is impossible to achieved everything can be made more perfect everything can be approved improved somehow and we’re living in a situation where perfectionism or even trying to be perfect it is quite difficult and impossible so we need to stop reproducing the toxic perfectionism and the toxic communication of the dominant culture and we can do better the vegan movement veganism was established you know in order to offset these toxic attitudes and behaviors that are normal in the dominant culture our movement was founded on compassion and on justice we are doing better in many ways and we can do better when it comes to this changing our communication patterns so I’m gonna actually talk now I could I originally when I put this presentation together had like 50 tips for preventing toxic communication but we don’t time for 50 tips I do cover effective communication very thoroughly in my new book beyond beliefs but here I’m going to talk about eight tips a key tips in order to prevent the spread of toxic communication the first one is to examine yourself and your own behaviors many people have not everybody but many people have inflated beliefs about how well they treat others and how well they are seen by others particularly examine yourself and how you relate to people based on how much power they have in their relation with relationship with you this is something most of us don’t pay attention to it’s good to become a self observer in this way and notice when somebody has power more power than you do do you tend to treat them with more respect than you treat people with less power than you have if that’s the case then it’s important for you to change the way that you relate across the board and pay attention to the company you keep if you surround yourself with people for whom toxic communication is normal and normalized you’re going to be very likely to slip into this pattern of communication yourself if you’re around people who are more conscious and are not communicating in a toxic way your tolerance for toxic communication will be a lot lower and when you get exposed to it and you notice it you will feel how toxic it actually is you’ll you’ll kind of cleanse yourself of it so then when you’re reexpose to it you’ll feel the toxicity even more and this includes being online be careful how much you expose yourself to online toxic communications so it doesn’t become normalized point to is to become a critical consumer of what you put in your heart and your mind just like you are of what you put in your body and on your body so for example notice the signs of toxic communication and distance yourself from them and don’t use them yourselves for example shouting and this might look like just using all capital letters and multiple execute exclamation points in some time’s just one exclamation point using absolutes okay communicating where you say for example men rather than some men or meat-eaters rather than some meters use sexist language or you know eat animals or or are have negative attitudes toward vegans notice character assaults this is when people conflate a behavior with a character right so for example when somebody says she’s speciesist because she says something speciesist or he’s sexist because he says or does something sexist when you’re born into dominant systems like speciesism and sexism carnism racism you have absorbed all of us have absorbed these systems into our mentality so deeply that we will never probably never be fully free of them what we need to do is to be committed to continuing to our examine ourselves becoming self observers becoming more literate so that we can be practice the values of compassion and justice more fully but if somebody says something sexist that’s that’s normal we can point it out to them we can help raise awareness but as soon as you label a person’s character because of a behavior you really shut down you really decrease the likelihood that that person is going to be open to any other feedback that person will likely feel shamed um hyperbole hyperbole is exaggerated you know making exaggerated claims rather than sticking to the facts so you know saying something like Joe’s malicious statements rather than saying statements that Joe made that I experienced as offensive malicious shows that you know what Joe’s intentions were do you know he was intending to hurt we can’t possibly know that all we can know is what we observe and our perceptions of what we observe defining reality defining reality is like we define other’s reality when we make ourselves experts on the other’s internal experience when we act like we’re mind-readers when we know what somebody else is thinking or feeling or needing or what their motivations are which we can’t possibly know but we define another’s reality it’s fundamentally disrespectful it’s often shaming it often triggers anger in the other person understandably and rightly and it’s a very disconnecting behavior so defining reality is saying something like he doesn’t care about animals he’s just trying to feed his ego and this is said sometimes about vegans who practice veganism in a way that other vegans don’t like oh he doesn’t really care about animals oh that organization doesn’t really want to help animals they just want to make lots of money for themselves how on earth does anybody know that how can any of us know what is inside somebody else’s heart in mind allowing others to be the expert on their own experience is fundamentally respectful and it’s a generosity we all deserve and it’s a relational behavior it creates connection and openness rather than disconnection and and closed mindedness so a couple of more a couple more suggestions avoid any communication that suggests that the other is somehow less than that is shaming this can be kind of difficult especially when it comes to like intellectual or academic critiques I don’t know how many of you noticed this have noticed this but you know often academic critiques or intellectual critiques or communications that you know are very eloquent or use lots of big words are cleverly you know cleverly worded ways of communicating something that’s shaming and that’s toxic so be especially you know wary when you read an intellectual critique that’s criticizing somebody else’s work it may very well be inaccurate criticism and it may also be a criticism that’s done in such a way as to be shaming point three is to create a healthy process when we’re communicating now all communications have these two parts they have a Content and a process when we’re communicating the content is we are communicating about it’s the subject right so the communicate the content of this communication now is communication so the content is what we are talking about and the process is what do you think it’s how right it’s how we are communicating the process matters more than the content you think about your experience of communication over your lives you know think about a communication or a conversation you had maybe last week or last year there is a chance you might not even remember any of the content you don’t remember what you were talking about you probably however remember how you felt in that conversation the process determines how we feel when our process is healthy our goal is mutual understanding communication is what we use simply because we’re not mind reader’s we’re not telepathic even though a lot of us act like we are so our goal is mutual understanding it’s for me to understand your thoughts and feelings and for you to understand my thoughts and feelings that’s our goal when our process is healthy we can talk about just about anything without arguing and when our process is unhealthy we can’t talk about anything without arguing so differences are rarely the problem in our communications differences and differences in the vegan movement it’s our beauty it’s our richness it creates a diversity of opinions that are really important for the kind of work that we’re doing in the world differences are rarely the problem is how we relate to the differences that creates the problem when we have a healthy process we are open to understanding each other’s differences and to communicating about the content in a way that helps raise our awareness and deepen our understanding point four is to protect your boundaries and the boundaries of others so for example we need to hold toxic communicators accountable we need to not be a bystander and not enable them the reason that toxic communication goes viral is because so many bystander allow it to go viral we need to start taking more responsibility particularly on our social media sites you know if you if somebody is posting commentary on your site don’t forward it don’t allow it have a statement that you do not host commentary that is toxic and let people know this and ideally let the person know and then delete it if they don’t stop communicating in a toxic way don’t turn away from it we also need to block toxic communicators if people refuse to engage in a way that is protect productive and we need to avoid ourselves avoid the temptation to read communication that is toxic toxic commentary toxic commentary feeds the ego it feeds the part of us that wants to feel better then it feeds the part of us that doesn’t feel good enough and kind of gets off on reading others being put down it has an addictive pull to it an addictive charge to it and don’t get pulled in by it avoid the temptation to read it because the more you take it in the more it feeds that part of you that will be attracted to rather than turned off by this kind of communication if there are groups that tolerate toxic or encouraged toxic communication you decide whether you want to leave them or not and I encourage you to leave them and if you are a person who organizes meetings or you organize events make sure that those are safe spaces for the people who attend for the people who speak we can do a lot as vegans to create a community that’s safer for other vegans and make a commitment to stay connected to your empathy as long as it feels safe to do this for some people staying connected to their empathy doesn’t feel safe for them in which case it’s probably better not to be communicating but if you feel it’s safe for you to stay connected to your empathy do so empathy is the antidote to judgement and contempt empathy is the antidote to contempt if you notice you’re feeling the charge of contempt pause take a step back and really try to look at the world through that other person’s eyes people have really good reasons for doing what they do even if we don’t agree with them if even if we don’t understand them and remember that it’s ideas rather than people who are in conflict pause before you communicate especially when you’re upset about something and it can be a really good idea to put a sticky note next to your computer to remind you that on the other end of your communication is a living being it’s an individual with feelings and preferences and a life that matters to them just like your life matters to you whenever possible it’s a better idea to speak to somebody privately rather than calling them out publicly in some cases we need to talk about a person’s behaviors publicly even then we can do it in a way that’s not shaming to them but whenever possible try to speak to somebody one-on-one so they don’t feel humiliated by the commentary or by by the feedback that you might give them and don’t assume that having power makes somebody invulnerable to the toxic and debilitating effects of shame I cannot tell you how many people I have spoken to who have a lot of social power some of them who are leaders in the vegan movement and some of them who are very well-known even outside of the movement who have been devastated by things that have been said to and about them don’t assume that just because somebody has power or privilege that this somehow makes them invulnerable to being shamed in fact often the opposite is true people are even feel even more vulnerable to the toxic effects of shame an honor the dignity of others even as you’re holding them accountable even as you’re giving feedback even as you’re disagreeing with an idea we can do this in a way that honors dignity be extremely skeptical of anyone who argues that it ever appropriate to communicate without compassion or respect I have not seen a single study or a single piece of evidence that suggests that this is actually true in fact what I understand and have seen is to the contrary practicing compassion is not weakness or passivity it is strength it takes a lot more courage to be able to hold on to our to our empathy and to practice our compassion in the face of disagreements and in the face of differences than it does to just lash out and fight back and finally it’s important to remember our shared bond this is our shared bond as vegans it’s a bond and it’s a sacred bond that we share and every time we communicate in a toxic way we violate this sacred bond that is so portent to us and so important to our movement and so important to the animals as vegans we carry a heavy burden around with us we have to live with the awareness but every second of every day horrific suffering is happening all around us and that we can work our entire lives to end this suffering and we probably won’t live to see it this is an awareness that the rest of the world is not carrying it’s an awareness that only other vegans understand it is our sacred bond our collective knowing and our collective caring this is this bond that we need to honor so that our movement is the safe and inspirational place that we need it to be to continue working for liberation for many many vegans the world does not feel like a safe space we walk away from our vegan circles and we get teased for caring we get judged and shamed because we believe in practicing the values that other that everybody actually shares we spend our lives often picking up the pieces of the mess that are left behind by others and we never get a single thank you and instead we often get ridiculed or attacked for being who we are and what we do it’s hard enough for us to keep doing what we do it living in this karna stick culture how can we possibly keep doing this work the way we need to do it if we can’t even trust that the other vegans the only other people who see what we see are not on our side and are attacking us too how can we keep doing this work that we need to do we need to feel appreciated everybody needs appreciation to feel inspired and we’re never going to be thanked by the individuals who’s live we are say lives we’re saving they can’t thank us they don’t know who we are they don’t know what we’re doing so we need each other to see we need to be seen by each other because the world doesn’t see us and we need to be appreciated by each other because the victims whose lives were trying to save can’t appreciate it can’t appreciate us and can’t share with us the appreciation we need to know that our efforts matter and they do matter they do matter at the moment we are the primary hope that the animals have and we owe it to them to do our best work for them we owe it to them to be our better selves for them and we owe it to the other vegans around us who need us just like we need them I know that when I was on the receiving end of toxic communication and it was devastating for me and it really hindered my ability to do the work the way that I needed to do my work but I couldn’t I was so consumed I was so hurt by what I was seeing and what I was hearing by the feeling that that my own fellow and sister vegans were communicating with me and with each other this way it wasn’t until I started hearing from the vegans who are most of the movement you know and being thanked and being told that my work does matter and it does make a difference to them that I started to feel more more inspired again we need to be able to do that for each other and I want to kind of wrap this up by by sharing with you my appreciation for you you are the reason the animals will never be able to thank me either you are the reason that I can keep doing what I do you are the reason that I stay inspired you are the reason that I want to get out of bed in the morning and try to work for this movement and work to make the world a better place and you are the reason that the animals hope that they have the hope that they have so I want to thank you for for you for all that you’re doing for what you do for me for what you do for the movement and for what you ultimately do for each other for other vegans so that together we can finally achieve Animal Liberation thank you thank you for taking the time to listen to this talk I have a question for you I’m hoping that you’ll post your comments your answers if you have been the target of toxic communication what has worked for you to help you feel better has it been disengaging entirely from any more interactions has it been communicating directly with the person who had communicated with you in a toxic way or was there something else that you did that you felt helped you to feel better thank you again for watching please give this video a thumbs up and subscribe to the channel.

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The Vegan Society debate childhood vegan nutrition on Channel 5’s The Wright Stuff

[UltraVid id=123 ]Welcome back to Thursdays show with Helen
Led, Steve First and Joe Woods, still to come Is it acceptable to tell someone, friend,
family, stranger to wash their hands especially if they’ve just come out of the loo. 02071735555
is the number. First though is putting your child on a strict vegan diet tantamount to
abuse? An Italian couple have just lost custody of their 14 month-old son after his strict
vegan diet reportedly left him severely malnourished. The child was taken to a hospital by grandparents
a week ago and after finding him to be under weight, the same weight as a three-month-old
in fact, and in general poor health, authorities took him into care. Veganism is a lifestyle
that excludes all animal products and by products so there’s no meat, no fish, no milk, no eggs,
no honey, no leather fur silk or wool. It’s grown in popularity, the number of vegans
in Britain is up by a staggering 360 percent in a decade. 542,000 in total and It’s usually
an ethical choice and some choose it for their children to follow too but given It’s restrictive
nature, can it provide the nutrients that children need to develop. What experts say
is It’s more difficult to nourish a young child adequately on a restrictive diet especially
as they often have to eat more to get the same energy values, some can end up deficient
in vitamin D, calcium and iron. Unsurprisingly those at The Vegan Society would disagree,
they say research shows vegans are generally healthier then those on an animal-based diet,
as their more clued up about nutrition and joining us now is Jimmy Pearson who is a spokesperson
for The Vegan Society, thank you very much for joining us Jimmy and how long have you
been a vegan?. I’ve been vegan for two years now and I must admit It’s the best decision
I ever made. Why did you decide to go vegan? Well I went vegan initially because I wanted
to improve my health and I very quickly noticed a string of benefits, I was sleeping better,
had clearer skin, my digestion was much improved and I had a lot more energy that was the main
thing I noticed. I went from someone who didn’t enjoy running at all to loving long distance
running, It was fantastic and all the evidence also suggests that the vegan diet is really
effective and protecting against lots of long-term chronic health conditions so I’m sure the
benefits will continue throughout my life but It’s not just about health for me, the
more I looked into the meat industry and the dairy industry, the more the standard practises
shocked me so now I would say I was mainly vegan for the animals. And I would like to
know and I mean It’s all very well you being an adult doing this but do you have children
Yes. And are they vegan? Yes they are. My partner Emma and I had our first child, our
daughter Sharon only 3 months ago so she’s exclusively breast feeding still and I think
we’ll start weaning at about 6 months. And then what are you gonna put the child on?
If they don’t have milk or even goats milk. I think goats milk is quite a good option
but what will after she’s finished breast feeding what will you give your child Well
we will of course be raising her vegan on the basis that we think based on our experience
how we feel and all the evidence and research in front of us that it will give her the best
possible start in life and as soon as she’s old enough to start eating she’ll be eating
all the fantastic wide variety of vegan foods that we eat. Straight to food Laura will continue
breastfeeding as long as she can which is up to two years which I think is the world
health organisations recommendation, particularly people on vegan diets. Do you think people
are going to judge you for that stand? Well they haven’t done so far, I’d say not at all
actually. Well you’re on national TV now so maybe. Public perception is changing fast
and old stereotypes are fading slowly but surely and most people nowadays rather then
asking me where I get my protein from, they’re asking me for recipe ideas which is fantastic
and throughout my partner being pregnant and Sharon being born we had unqualified support
from the medical profession, now that’s not the experience all vegans get but it was for
us whether It’s GPs, midwives, health visitors, they’re all completely behind us and I think
that’s an indication that the tide’s turning and that people are much more accepting of
veganism but there’s a point I’d really like to make here actually and It’s that the media’s
portrayal of this case that’s particularly misleading. Now there are on average 5,000
cases of malnutrition in the UK alone every year yet the media has decided to highlight
a single instance with a vegan family in Italy. Now in terms of malnutrition the problem in
this case and with every case is a shortage of calories and nutrients, It’s nothing inherently
to do with the vegan diet which contains everything you need for great health at every age and
life stage including childhood and infancy and that’s the position of the British Dietetic
Association who are widely regarded as the leading authority on matters like this in
this country. You put your case very well, as one would expect, I’m just interested that
you’ve been a vegan for two years so before that, didn’t you like a pint and crisps and
the steak? Admittedly I was a big meat-eater and if someone told me I’d be vegan a number
of years ago I would not of believed them. I used to work in KFC. Oh my god, even I don’t
do chicken in a drum stick, in a basket sorry. So It’s interesting, you’ve done this for
2 years, I applaud everything you’ve said, what would you do if your child says “Right
dad, I want a steak and I want it now.” Well of course those kind of choices about her
diet are entirely hers and as they will be throughout her life and all different things,
My partner and I will support her however she chooses to live her life and with whoever.
So it’s just for while she can’t answer back she will get the lentils. We will of course
try our best to ensure those choices are informed choices and we’ll explain where food comes
from, how the animals are treated and importantly the impact that has on animals and our health
but also the environment. Jimmy we’ve got a lot of calls on, haven’t we storm? absolutely
we’ve got Ang on line 4, Hello Good Morning Ang, Would you like to address your question
straight to Jimmy. Well my question is that I stopped eating red meat and I became really
really ill and I had to be hospitalized twice and have blood transfusions and nearly die,
I think what you’re doing is really irresponsible, what people need to understand is it’s not
really a question but our biology is animal biology, we can take in iron from animal better than iron from vegetables and I do think It’s a subtle form in my opinion of abuse. I don’t
know whether you could look at it properly because you probably weren’t brought up as
a vegan from birth where you? No I was a meat-eater all my life, and speaking from my experience
I felt significantly better once I removed animal products from my diet and to call it
irresponsible I would have to disagree with that, it’s not a restrictive diet, it contains
everything you need for great health but I suppose the problems come from a lack of educational
knowledge or information about it but there are huge amounts of resources online, It’s
never been easier to vegan than it is now so I’m sorry that you had a negative experience
but that’s not the general experience and if you were willing to give it a try again
there’s lots of support which perhaps there wasn’t years ago. Jimmy I just want to come
back to that point about bringing up a child as vegan and part of the problem seems to
be about the calories being large enough with a vegan diet. Well that is something that’s
been raised, and it’s a point, I can’t dispute that, children of course have smaller stomachs, but the recommendation about breast
feeding for as long as you can goes some way to alleviating that and eating little and
often is another good way to do it. Part of the problem is a vegan diet has a lot of fibre
in it which of course means you need to get even more calories. Absolutely but also there’s
a misconception that things like calcium come exclusively from dairy products but actually
if you look at green leafy vegetables, almonds, tofu, spinach for example, they’ve got much
higher rates of absorption then dairy products. Storm? We have bob on line 3. Hi there Bob,
Hi there. What’s your point? I agree with the guy from The Vegan Society, I’ve got three
kids myself and after two and a half years, for thirty years I ate meat, dairy, and eggs
and I had no reason to change but we came across some information about the ethics,
the health and environmental aspects and as responsible parents we did our research and
put the time in to find out if this was something applicable and that if our kids especially
could thrive on it, that’s what the difference is, maybe if these parents have dived into
this with their child without really doing their research and they haven’t really fed
him that’s where the problem lies but like the man from The Vegan Society said, all the
information is out there and we even consulted a nutritional therapist who gave us some more
information and since then I’ve had a knee problem of 14 years that disappeared, my kids
acne completely cleared up and we’ve never been healthier really. That’s what Jimmy was
saying, Bob thank you very much for giving us a ring. Storm? We’ve got Fiona on line
one. Hi There. Hi There, Good Morning, what’s your point? I agree with Jimmy that there
is a lack of understanding around what veganism actually is, because being plant based as a diet, being vegan is more about a wider understanding on where you can get your values from, if you explain to a child from a young age how their choices impact the wider world, then you are raising a compassionate human
being. I can see how that is a benefit to society and to them long term. Ok Fiona thank you
very much, Jen am I right in thinking you’re vegetarians? I’ll eat fish and occasionally
chicken but only if it’s organic. I’m all about organic and eating clean. You very rarely
see a fat vegan, vegans I see tend to be very healthy looking people. I want to be a vegan
now, let me be a vegan if I can look like him. He looks very lean and healthy. Storm?
We have Aaron on line 2. Hi, I find it astonishing that people equate veganism to extremism,
I’d ask people what’s more extreme eating a plant-based diet that reduces and reverses
your chances of diabetes, heart disease, cancer, or slaughtering 259 million animals daily
on the global scale? I suppose we come back to that point that Jimmy made, that there
is malnutrition on what people could consider a normal diet so in this particular instance
it’s more about the parents perhaps not knowing quite so much. Aaron thank you very much and
I suppose that’s what you’d say Jimmy doesn’t feel extreme to you, you just think it’s all
about food. Emma you’re a vegan aren’t you? Yeah I’m vegan, I think it’s the best decision
I’ve ever made, I’ve never felt healthier then when I started being vegan. I feel great.
How long have you been a vegan? I’ve been a vegan for a year and a half now and I feel
absolutely great and I stand by everything that Jimmy said so its great, it’s not a extreme
diet. Perhaps a little more difficult when you’re eating out with friends. Oh actually
it’s got easier and easier, Most restaurants now do offer a vegan option and I don’t find
it difficult at all, I think it’s fine. Ok thank you very much Emma and to you Jimmy.
I’m not being frivolous but can you have vegan wine? You can absolutely. So growing and fermenting’s
okay, I think that’s what happens with wine. Some of them are cleared with animal products.
With wine sometimes they use egg white to wash in the product. Ok, I’m leaning. Thank
you very much and thank you Jimmy. Thank you to all of you for calling.

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Vegans Louise and Frank – Vegan business owners band members & created World Vegan Day

[UltraVid id=96 ]Highways and high five all right but we’re here about the Cabaret which is the cowboy at calomel so how did you like get into creating a vegan cafe gallery event space anymore things add to that well it was all quite random really we always kind of had a dream about some kind of dream that we did reality and then it would have been about a year and a half ago maybe a bit longer I just saw a random sort of facebook post about this particular venue and that possibility of taking over and running into the restaurant like way because we it’s all our daughter very close to you and we knew this space so I just leave trying to believe what I just don’t see it on Facebook and we used to have a chat about it long and hard about it decided we should give it a go because we didn’t at least new order for my situation here to compete against other people happy one I what’s the best event are like program you put on I what’s the thing like you remembered and on our that’s so cool that’s made my day however i think when we’ve had really good bands so we know for us to hear is to burn a couple of times we’ve been heading up to that it would be round I think we did reach the two big on over irrigation and I felt that’s a good number you can still move around is not too jammed you can see the bound in comfort oh yeah a good band lots of people reserves hmm as we got into this staff interested in the arts in as well the selection of staff you lied so let me get something right one of my favorite Oh and she’s she’s great I think she just touch with our it already in to eat her and so she kind of me oh good and raise some money you know as well that was really popular event very committed we had Tom Robinson come and play here who’s who had some big hits in some teas and 80s but it continues to be a BBC Radio 6 DJ uncle and he’s really well known for having glad to be gay and he did a version of that song adopted at one point which is really funny things that because everyone was a bit hesitant about singing because it has yeah and he was like hold on it’s okay you don’t have to be getting to sing this song here everyone and then after that everyone sort of thank you and actually it was really young it’s quite moving actually I found it please you create the world vegan day so how did you come about creating that and what are the achievements you’ve had from it okay well well big day when I was president and we were in the lead up to the Society’s 50th thinking about how to celebrate this amazing occasionally and already have one more I’d already have one idea which is to create a fill and then I’m current exactly remember how the ideas that came into my mind Wow why don’t we created died and so that was much easier than making the film because that was really just a matter of announcing it but when I thought about it was really to commemorate when the society would start it started by very small number of people who have this crazy idea that you could live without essentially live without exploiting animals and at that time which is in 1944 sightings found people literally thought we would die bad enough that you vegetarian now we all know clearly different actually you’re healthier as a beacon who you know you’re gonna Diagne be much healthier but at that time I just thought I find it incredible that those people at the beginning had this idea separately around the country came together as community for the day each other decided to found the society an into doing the war Second World War he’s in line when food was being rationed food was already severely restricted at that time and I’m just so inspired by these people and I felt they deserved to be remembered each year in fact that those people founded the society all those years ago so when we founded well-being well being in day we decided it would be the first of novo the exact date okay about so it was started in 1994 it’s amazing now it’s all over the world people do all kinds of and it just still serves as an opportunity to take the idea how to other people or to simply celebrate it and it’s you know it’s Damon people I think just celebrate create conditions that but you mentioned the film that you created so what was a film about well it was created by four of us really running drugs in in real life you’d be like but that was the first major undertaking actress but that at that time we were ye we were pleased to have the presenter Benjamins great British poet represent and we made a 25-minute promotional film about veganism that was well received I’m still proud of that work which you can see on youtube and yeah the film I’m really proud of go on it’s called truth or dare so lots of people want to start being businesses so do you have any tips for them the starting their own well because it happened to us by accident I just say really I mean we’ve been doing this for just over a year now if you want to get into the restaurant business the best and the key is really to get a good team you enter into this type of business what you need to and to be my advice is to be very determined set your goal and go for it if you make a mistake don’t worry we all do with their mistakes I made loads of the state’s every day and I try to learn from the run be a better person be tolerant of people some people like myself see a vegan argument and change very quickly other people they take but everybody is a potential video so be tolerant of people business other side so ten years to finally get it of you like leaving for life so you have been in a bun so as the band called and what’s it like traveling and playing music and well I think there’s nothing beats being on stage playing your own music in my experience so those of the highlights of my life are being the moment when you’re on stage playing us or moving beats my experience the band ring is calling this frenzy which we lazy about putting music out where we do have a small record deal most about next year do you drop in veganism in your music I think somebody asked you this before about I would say to us but it’s actually I think it’s really difficult songs can below nice but so we have sort of we did earn some gone on our album which is a little violence which cool it’s actually an ex somebody used to play these total king two gave it up because he couldn’t relating children into so that song which is kind of related he was the first he was an actor he changed his mind basically and regretted doing is instead a very powerful thing which is why he used the sample and then I wrote the music around that fitted in with the concept of the album which was an examination of violence what I put over the top of Everest sometimes quite shocking statements from people for examples of moments when they’ve been involved in a violent situation or contributed to violence in this case Ronald McDonald contributed and then become a reformed character i would say stay away from its own writers i find it a bit cringing it’s you’ve got to be very clever to pull it off in a way but other I recognize other people like in small but I have to jump in here and remember that i did do I’ve done a couple of league in field DJ mixes which is a collection of tracks some of them by very well known pretty much i buy very big all students a lot more than I ever thought that was it took me ages reserved so some of there are some really good it’s a great one quiet I goons that figure I did find a lot really do examples might be Dina by the youtube com vegan okay so in my case I have got involved with my local animal rights group in Southampton and I was already vegetarian although I didn’t stay vegetarian for very long because I met some vegans who were in a another animal rights group that was down the road and I came across a vegan society leaflet read it and I just connected immediately with the leaflet the argument like leaflet just very simply made the case for veganism and just like if I recognized immediately thought by the vegan mmm maybe not sort of conscious quite consciously in that way but my totally connected little got it I suppose and then basically I decided with my boyfriend at that time I think maybe we were both living at home or something so we decided to book ourselves a holiday in Jersey go away from here before decided to be season so then we both look begin at that time I was the age of 18 and even really met anyone who was vegetarian but I traveled to Europe I wanted to sort of broaden my horizons on a coached Greece somebody gave me Buddhism well vegetarianism was discussed and when I came back to make moment its soda seed in my mind because I didn’t want to be I realized I wouldn’t want to do that myself for me as well I just wanted to opt out of all that and then about a week later I’ve to go veggie I was in a Holland America parents store in southport and the first edition of the new revamped vegan magazine had come out I happen to see that I open it up when I read the definition I thought actually that makes more sense to me sort of bored out of a live-and-let-live attitude adding one of involved please do you have any tips for people that want to go vegan well I think I really enjoyed it you know it’s presented as you’re giving up something that you’re gonna miss I never missed eating meat or cheese or dairy once I found suitable alternatives the whole world of food opened up for me better healthier I declare a conscience i’m just literally recommend the thing is it’s enjoyable you know you’re not denying yourself something whole different way of living now is the time to go vegan because it seems that it’s really exploded in school now has been in the media but in my experience I will say it is the set maybe not the best decision I’ve made in my life that’s certainly one of the imagine not being thing just say it really contributes to the right thing but it’s the nature of the food itself as well it has so many positive effects on body or mental health emotions and it’s just a more enjoyable really like honest it’s more than that so much go to be I think as I ever not yeah I mean for the future the planets as well aware that fifty percent of greenhouse gas is actually generated from animal agriculture everybody’s we want to save the planet sometimes a lot of let’s go to be 10 billion season in this century a lot of people a book to start eating a hell of a lot more food you can see the beginning of that happening now I think I know it’s more related the future with mass migration because and that’s already it’s all there it’s also a resource we do start making changes and taken on radical ideas like a vegan future the planet will be destroyed by who hmm and append them vation because too many aspects of the planet and it’s all good year round so thank you good you’ll end up XP be coming for a professional a very good start yeah

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Vegan Athletes on WHAT THE HEALTH.

[UltraVid id=86 ]This is a clip from the documentary WHAT THE HEALTH, where Vegan athletes talk about the benefits of a vegan diet and how their health has improved exponentially after becoming a Vegan. They also break the protein myths about a plant-based Vegan diet. I do not own this video and it is being uploaded only for educational purposes. To learn more go to http://www.whatthehealthfilm.com

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DOMINICK THOMPSON interview / Tulum Vegan Festival

[UltraVid id=84 ]I’m Dominic Thompson most people know me as Dom’s Thompson Hilma animal rights activist a social entrepreneur I have one of the largest vegan quality companies crazies and weirdos crazies and weirdos you can zoom in on that right there we’re based out in New York our clothes yes this is make or recycle plastic bottles and are getting tired yes our kitchens vegan now you can fill it house off please I’m just feeling your muscles so our clothes are super sis what shot free we could probably say that they’re handmade in New York as well again from recycled plastic bottles other recycled materials organic cotton source from North Carolina it’s a beautiful cut suit yes a lot of t-shirts don’t really yeah we really pride ourselves on that we really do really pride myself on that so yeah and I’m also a multi-sport athlete which is to be translated triathlete I defy looking I do a little bit of boxing you know the all of that type of stuff so yeah so when you run one of those people you never see what they can’t be a jack of all trades and be a must you have to be a master one one yeah you can’t be a jack of all trades is like enjoying that myth no yeah and not just me a lot of people that do triathlons and I think that’s because we said once you do master it a lot of this stuff comes natural to me I’ve always been like a natural athlete but you can never go sit let’s go play travel yeah I get going to gym and outlook for most guys and stuff um naturally that strong because and you add the fact that my plant-based die makes me even stronger but I can’t master triathlon so I’m constantly chasing my own personal goal and my own personal PRS and it’s just so rewarding physically to really put your body through anywhere between a Olympic 25 mile er style type drop onto the hunt in a 40-mile type of Armand yeah I know for myself when I first went me you know I was lifting heavier my recovery time was a lot faster and I was just surprising myself I never loved loved running and all of a sudden I was doing half marathons and one is addicted it’s so addictive I encourage everyone to run look anyway I’m not gonna say I’m not a gym rat that’s a totally different type of an athlete I really encourage you to get out of that gym and I also brings me to that’s a good segue to I want you all to realize too just because someone is a aesthetic looking doesn’t mean that they’re really healthy or functional so just think about that most of these people men and women that look aesthetic they might be pulled on Petes and steroids and other drugs and supplements but they can go out here to run them out they might collapse and that’s not the shame but I’m just saying just really be careful what you buy it to and what you believe it’s you and saying all I have to say is the plant-based way of living it’s the best way with respect to your body and also get out there and run to leave that gym gym it’s great we get out there what was the biggest difference for you after going vegan what was what did you it was the biggest difference that you’ve got nobody yeah my body transformed so I went plant base 16 years ago when I was incarcerated in prison okay yeah yeah and so in there I was about 256 260 pounds and I dropped all the way down to about 187 solid muscle and I was I couldn’t split but I went vegan for the animals for to reset it just this is myself as far as away from any harm so I went plant-based specifically not indeed but plant-based food on say plant-based within prison I had like a 75% vegan diet and 25% octo wish vegetarian dairy and action without whatever they served in this in the system I would eat that but I didn’t know what I knew about the dairy industry i thought i was known animals but vegetarian but i just i was ignorant to know not what was happening there we didn’t we didn’t have the doms of the world we don’t have the what the hell’s in the world we have none of that information 16 yeah we didn’t have social media 16 years ago so the dairy industry I didn’t think was a bad thing I just I just thought the animals like everybody else I’ve been ignorant it’s living on the green land for our dairy and that’s okay and then when I got out the Cisco was able to educate myself that’s nice flip that switch what the fuck Here I am being a vegetarian thing I’m feeling good but they’re raping the cows taking the cab’s away to milk cows away from building industry it’s horrible what they’re going close to three years so you went vegan when you were in prison flat base that’s not completely being I was vegetarian in there yeah yeah but I limited meat directly yeah eliminate meat in prison yeah it’s not one of my recent interview you guys want me to check out the full story check out retro my podcast is up on his it’s one of the top downloads download the podcast is if you guys really want to take the time for two hours just listen to it my entire stores on there what do you want do know kit what’s up what up this is chatting tutorial we just wait what’s your advice if you were to get out of the matrix to get out of the matrix I mean I think in general is probably hard to even get those he even think about that question if you think about I think the real question is what’s the best way for us that’s out of the matrix or out of that community to get other people out of that community those people if you think about it they aren’t really tuned into that type of lifestyle and I think we have to be continued to be walking billboards be assertive and have some empathy that we all been there most of us get our plant-based vegan oh we used to eat meat so we shouldn’t be shaming per se but just educating assertively using yeah for sure so there’s one thing to be a vegan it’s another thing to be a vegan activist absolutely she’s a whole nother level garage I just make feel having gone through first to myself it’s an obligation as a vegan to do that to share the message and to help others and I feel the same way to it because if you think about the history of veganism historically it’s based off the main principles it’s really about compassion animals animal rights just a peaceful lifestyle Pacific everything goes for us here here the ridiculous amount of fillings you filled with respect to your help improving and if good things you don’t for the environment is all bonus sure okay what made you become an activist at the focusing vegan bit of a step up from being a vegan sounds like you’re an activist first I was respect to that’s how that’s what I was known for that’s what happened people so six seven years ago when social media first came out with respecting Instagram a buddy of mine said yo man you should get on Instagram and stop posting your workouts and do all of this and I was ignorant about Instagram I don’t know I was like one of the first people to go on there and I’ve seen all right oh that’s pretty cool but I used it right in and there not only to post my workouts but also to talk by animal rights since day one and that’s how my account through organically out here I love this man of color african-american vegan I wasn’t then I wasn’t the stereotype of what you think of vegan Mel is a pale middle-aged white guy and Here I am I guess that men of color thought of my animal rights and I’m pretty thick I’m not a small guy and Here I am doing endurance races and lifting heavy heavy is luck if you guys don’t follow me and you see how heavy I can look you can’t see you fuck yeah bitching squad and all that you know I never reported it I never recorded it you know but I got out too yeah I did over 400 before ripping at 325 like it’s nothing I think though yeah and then I I did did it I did a 225 for life I didn’t count that one down NFL Combine style I did over like I did like over 40 reps yeah yeah yeah it was I could have kept going I was like fuck I’m doing this without any stops so yeah yeah but yeah yeah sure but even as a kid when I was eight years old I used to push back to my mom she was serving chicken wings and I fell like those little bitty arms that’s like I don’t want this shit it may hurts the fight we used to fight and that’s hard to tell a single mother I grew up without a father single mother that worked three jobs as a nurse you don’t want her food and we was already poured there was but she got smart she introduced me to fish she did have fish dicks all the time and chicken breast solos it was hitting the cartilage and the bones I was okay and then that’s when I made that reconnection in prison had that flashback like trying to figure out why the university has me here and that’s when I’m president I said I got a distance myself it specifically cool all evil from what I used to do which was drug dealing to consuming poison and stuff like that so yeah but just to go back to your question so that’s that’s not my account grew organically because I was just totally opposite of what you see everything Amell was and I’m happy to say I’m one original Trailblazers that started at movement so now you have a lot of men and when they’re both under my impact of it yeah thank you for everything that you’ve done thank you so much for me I don’t see it was just a vegan or an athlete I was as you were talking you’re like this these Trailblazers but more of an angel miscue thank you so much yeah you’re just transformation transformative we all are and that’s what I want to encourage everyone out there you know we can’t I can’t do it alone you guys can’t do it alone you know take your counts off a private go public use those hashtags because you never know that piece of MIL whether you cook in tacos or lasagna it might look a lot better than me you’re talking on those on your presentation and it might be a friend of your your community or someone that’s fallen you check out that hashtag bye wow I could give this a go that looks pretty good so this thing about that you know photos are very powerful one meal can make a difference one plate friends if we can get one person to go vegan because it’s your account or my account we do our job yes and always push your body even your buddy yes push it to the limit there are no Dara Dara well there are certain limits but yes she’s right push it push it push it push and that’s why I tell you guys to get out the gym everyone it’s millions and millions of people in the gym there not everyone’s out in that role running or biking what’s more amazing you are thank you so much for having me appreciate it thank you thank you thank you

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Vegans Vs. Meat Eaters: What Is The Right Diet?

[UltraVid id=74 ]What are you putting in your body dead carcass pain suffering fear can I have all of my vegans go into that pool of light and my non-vegans in that pool away first statement taste plays a big factor in my eating choices yeah I mean that’s a huge thing for me I think it’s one of my weaknesses actually like butter salt it’s one of my weaknesses I love food actually deepened when I became vegan I don’t think I appreciated it as much as I did before I was vegan my name is Aubrey Davis and I have been vegetarian for 24 years and a vegan for 13 years I believe that humans are the top of the food chain is a human at the same level of equivalence is like a fish right there’s probably a big reason why I’m not vegan anymore right is I didn’t I could I didn’t see that I had to see myself I don’t moral equivalent of a fish and it gets into moral questions like you know why should we have a pet that’s a dog rather than eat the dog and I think the most important question is why should I love my neighbor rather than eat my neighbor my name is Steve Michele ski I was a vegan for a year I was vegetarian for two years I’m a meat-eater now I’ve been so for over five years like I don’t even see like what is like a food chain you know I’m saying that’s just some contract some guy made and put a little diagram and put us the human beings on the top so I don’t leave the question of whether we’re at the top I think it’s a question of what do you do with that if you have a more conscious energy than an animal what do you do with that power do you choose to take a life or do you choose to live in love I put a lot of thought into my meals the way I support my body and my health is extremely important I don’t find that I can function at my best either healthy productive emotionally stable or intellectually capable unless I have a lot of proper nutrients in my diet six years ago I became vegan because I got sick I started to realize that my health was directly attached to what I ate since then my friends and family have supported me to feeling better and I’m better than I once before I got sick I don’t really like cook or anything so I don’t really put too much thought into what I eat I guess I live a fast paced kind of like I’m working late night so I’m waking up early so sometimes it’s easier to grab this quick process sandwich or I wish I planned my meals out more I think I would be a lot I would feel a lot better I think it’s really powerful no matter what you’re eating to put your intentions into whether it’s prayer invocation and there’s such great power and presence versus just like scarfing something down but like can I just really be present with this meal take my time and chew it slowly so that’s the first night resonate with and what I choose to do I would kill an animal I think there’d be tons of context where I’d kill an animal like if if a Lions gonna go kill a baby I’d probably kill an animal I’d kill an animal to save a human life and I get the vegans probably wouldn’t do that if I could do something to prevent killing them besides eating them like if I was protecting myself and we had to we had it like a something that we could do to get that animal away I would definitely try to not kill it I mean Ivy comes down to you with the animal you killing the animal I would I would give up their life for the fish why is it always the case when talking about would I kill an animal like exactly if you were lions running around downtown LA when I was in the hiking there’s there’s mountain lions that coming and kill people you’ve known that right that’s an Orange County that’s not that’s not in the jungle in Africa it’s Orange County mountain lions have killed hikers kids just let them know let the yes I we’re hiking in the mountains and there’s a mountain lion I have to be aware the fact that I’m in mountain lion territory and be like I’m okay with the risk because to be honest I’m not hiking with a gun I have no way to defend my friend you don’t hike with a hiking pole I mean I can pull against a mountain lion I don’t think you’re I just I just want to say like even if I did and even if my attempt were to be successful I would feel awful having killed the mountain lion what way your feelings or your foundation than for your beliefs 100% are human beings animals yes yes sure would you kill another human being to save another human being yes what makes one person more viable to another is it your relationship to that person it would yeah it would probably be so if for example I raised an animal in the wild it’s like an animal I’ve built a relationship with and that animal now threatens the life of a human being but I don’t know but I’ve known an animal its entire life what makes killing that animal as just cause okay as opposed to saving that life I have a live a longer relationship with that animal why would I kill the animal before I’d save that person it’s not relationship you kill them a person / an animal it’s because I believe human beings are animals now I see humans at a different level but maybe a value fish at the same levels person I have we see it very different I do it costs more than it should to eat healthy it’s more expensive to eat healthy I don’t think it’s too expensive farmers market is something that I’m trying to frequent more but sometimes you know you can go spend twenty dollars here and definitely not get as much I definitely want to see that you know maybe that’ll encourage people to eat a little healthier if you can go grab that fresh fruit those fresh veggies for five ten bucks you know I think our culture as a society is just in great towards like the fast food culture and which is cheap and accessible but now I think we have more of established like medical bases on what’s healthy and what’s not healthy and to get that content and to have it be tasty as well is is expensive I’m running in it does not cost more money to be vegan that is a myth it takes planning yes the convenience is less can you grab a hamburger at McDonalds for sure for 99 cents but how much lentils can you buy the issue is capitalism like that is what is keeping us where we are it’s not that humans are smarter and they’re gonna come up with this technology the technology exists it is there we can feed so many people it is capitalism and factory farming and most these companies that are selling us products that are like shitty food they don’t give a fuck about you at all period someone sitting on the island somewhere oh yeah like just stacking bread and then probably fast food eating really healthy food that shit you go to certain neighborhoods certain areas you don’t see the same fast-food you don’t see the same restaurant and it’s all for a reason they know I mean yeah that’s a good point it’s like they don’t have why’s there are many health food stores in the hood like my pant like get an option Weiser Lucas is everywhere and it’s true it’s like gift when you break it down there’s like malicious intent to D harmonize and like lower the vibration of certain people in certain areas and it’s like that’s a part of it too it’s like what am i contributing to true I’ll say this you know when I was 11 years old my father passed away from his second heart attack he was diabetic he was pissing out of a2 by Washington deteriorate my youngest here’s my life for like years and years just to tr-8 taking pharmaceutical drugs and just kind of basically dying slowly because of what he chose the 8th to me I’d rather spend an extra dollar I need organic or something healthy now and live longer than try to cut corners when you know now instead of later my mom would same thing she died she she was eating buckets of ice cream when she passed away she died at 49 years old Wow now choose now the more education that we can put out there just like stuff like this is beautiful that’s what I was most anxious about is learning more of what I’m trying to step into I don’t know if I’ll ever give up chicken I’m just gonna be honest with you I don’t know I want to eat a lot cleaner chicken do you guys have like cheat days ever I am vegan 100% at the frontline ethical reasons always always always and that’s why I don’t think in 24 years I’ve ever gone back it was hard to try new things things I didn’t like found tons of vegan food that was like oh god fuck you people here and then simultaneously realizing that there was options you know there’s always choices and it’s always choices we make like you said you may never give up meat fully but it’s like you’re making a choice or at least thinking for yourself and making a decision and like that’s all you can ask people to do is think for themselves I really appreciate each and every one of y’all I think so really appreciate y’all thank you for coming out what’s up guys I am Amari and I am Jason and am I’ve got a question for you you have a question for me what do you like about little Rhonda what I like about middle ground is seeing people come together and like realize that their labels are not the whole sum of their experience like take it off take it off the labels realizing there’s so much more than their labels that’s right I love that all right well tell us in the comments below why you love middle ground and if you’ve been a label that you want to take off and throw in the ground tell us that as well we love you guys as always please subscribe hit that like button I’ll see you next time

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VEGAN 2018 – The Film

[UltraVid id=67 ]In our previous film we showcased the increasing health environmental and ethical awareness around the globe as more and more people began to speak out why do we rarely hear climate change campaigns targeting the animal agriculture industry let’s follow the money stream funded study disproportion between that little bit of extra pleasure you might get from eating meat and a phenomenal amount of destruction required to produce it should surely commend it to anyone as a stupid thing to do what do you think is the biggest misconception about a vegan diet the biggest misconception is everyone says where do you get your protein and I’ve had a long-term health condition and I’ve seen a dramatic shift in my health in the last 12 days it’s recognized again by the American insurance industry that there’s only two dietary plans that can reverse heart disease there’s no meat in those programs they’re plant-based programs it’s blatantly obvious now that we do not need to consume animals to be healthy will be far healthy without them [Music] as veganism continued to grow in popularity and garner mainstream appeal the meat industry found themselves under increasing pressure you say yourself you have a vested interest Cormack in this are you worried about veganism growing in popularity because the meat and dairy industry let’s be honest and not pull any punches it’s a sunset industry [Music] it has no place in civilized society period this film says 2018 story behind the changing conversation for me I want to bring a message which is veganism and that there doesn’t have to be torture in fabulous fashion 2018 this next year is our year like it’s the year we go mainstream we’re definitely seeing for 2018 the theme overall is plant-based eating have fights but there are doctors that there are lawyers that there are people out there who are also embracing this as people use digital technology more than ever the lies created by powerful industries were revealed and the shape-shifting began what’s for dinner what’s with it steroid injected minced cow bollocks courtesy of the farming industry tearing up rainforests to plant animal feed I have slowly and reluctantly come to the conclusion that as it stands now honest doctors can no longer practice honest medicine we have a complete healthcare system failure we are contemplating an agricultural crisis an ecological crisis as well as the climate breakdown crisis and it’s being driven by the food that we eat and the way that it’s produced there’s a 500% increase in vegans in the United States since 2014 that’s like a growing growing number Simone from eat free food increased by nearly eight thousand percent last year and the number of people who are going vegan has quadrupled in the last five years now more and more people are cutting out meat and dairy products and adopting a plant-based diet and we can live well without causing harm to other animals why wouldn’t me we felt like you know what I agree with you I’m just gonna saying I agree with you completely there you know the evidence is clear the the future is definitely plan based it’s not just a trend it’s not just a phase people have been hit with multiple sources of in and still hasn’t hit everybody but more and more people are seeing some pretty dramatic and compelling research that long while vegans all the time is more about people taking the emphasis to change their life and be active and to spread the message in 2018 I have seen an explosive growth in the vegan movement we’re gonna be looking at a very very different world in about five years where a huge percentage of people will be vegan I think we’re very close to that tipping point what was once a fringe movement is now mainstream there’s no stereotype anymore I mean we really are heading into a plant-based revolution the world is changing the new year assured in vegan Yuri an initiative that has seen explosive growth over the last few years and encourages the public to try a plant-based diet in case you hadn’t noticed this month is being called V January it’s vegan January it’s people cutting back on meat and dairy foods for their new year’s resolution and many retailers and restaurants have picked up on the trend in January 2018 it broke new records grabs headlines and set off a series of TV debates if people want to do is get on with it quietly do whatever you want to do and arguments against veganism flooded the mainstream go back to the time of the caveman for God’s sake its nature do you understand that what happened in jungles we’ve developed we’ve met we’ve we’ve grown k-19 we’re put me right off him I found it it was a wimp because it couldn’t order a good psychical red-blooded man you can order a good steak so if you think about PETA and environmentalist groups veganism they’re all able to exist now in 2018 because of the meat eaters of the past who built this amazing civilization that allows unfocused adults to chase their fringe causes what do you think people need meat just stupid not eating meat that’s just stupid it’s not a real thing why is it stupid because everybody likes me how would you know unless you ate who can’t eat a good piece bacon and you say that people who are on vegan diets are malnourished and people who are malnourished are more likely to commit crimes presumably you’re not going out and collecting your own nuts and seeds and plants are you know and so I think he’s healing those clocks oh yeah who’s killing all those plants well who’s collecting them because you make the the anti vegan backlash continued when iconic cooking show Great British Bake Off announced it was going vegan for a week with some unable to hide their fury on social media boycotting the show on principle vegans were branded demons at meat industry conferences senior editors made jokes about killing vegans and the rhetoric on mainstream media became weaker and even irrelevant now if you look at avocados for example which many vegans consume and we’re now consuming six times the the number of avocados here in the West than five years ago even you know that the Mexican rainforest is being completely destroyed but is it possible that the vegans and the vegetarians have gotten hold of the Agriculture Department and infiltrated it so to speak and are pushing a meatless menu on the rest of the world Americans eat two times as much that’s because we win all the world wars we gotta go we’re undefeated you don’t think as a steak dude oh I don’t want to think about it arguments against veganism were tested on mainstream platforms and the debate was raging if you saw an animal die right if you’re the animal die for slaughter they’re slaughtered the beef in front of you could you then eat a steak because that’s the hypocrisy icon would anybody here go plant-based those are practical questions I want to get to the weave question the moral question do we do we have dominion over the animals they are peers Angie says there is real evidence of a plant-based diet thing not only healthier for the individual but the planet now veganism was gaining mainstream appeal its detractors were finding it hard to provide credible arguments and their weaknesses were being exposed I mean to you show that people come to your farm things like the the artificial insemination do you know what happens to the carbs to show them the pens that kept in for upset at time whether or not allowed to see their mums allowed to nurture like to socialize you tell them to the slaughterhouse as well and show the knight being pulled across their front I do keep up their head and then just show currently cows grazing it mean facts I like to think that we show everyone the full spectrum well do do you what you either do what you don’t well I like to think that we do yes so do you show that people have come to your farm what happens to the dairy cows they take it from their mother yes I do show the fact they stuck on people’s fingers because they want to suckle from their mother to obtain the milk that we take those right into that when you take a car away from its mum what is that process like in response to V January in the TV appearances it brought came an increasing backlash from the dairy industry which launched Feb you dairy led by livestock specialist dr. Judith capper farmers were instructed to spread a positive message of the dairy industry throughout February I thought it was rather a shame not to celebrate all of the fabulous dairy products that we all have access to every single day so for example we have butter on bread here and lastly of course nice cold ice cold belt that’s the old slogan used to go Febby dairy did little to convince the public to rally behind the dairy industry instead it had an unexpected effect many used Furby dairy to create awareness about the dairy industry and initiatives were launched including the switch for good campaign at the end of February which aired an anti dairy advert during the Winter Olympic Games is closing ceremony I did it and I got stronger I did it to take back my life I did it to run faster and I ran faster the next day I did it for my athletic performance and it worked I made the switch at almost 40 for my health I didn’t need dairy milk to make Olympic history twice going back to cow’s milk no way I made a switch for good for good for good I am proud to be dairy free as the message around dairy spread things were also starting to change behind the scenes powerful investors were joining forces with food tech leaders and this by the end of 2018 would put significant pressure on the animal agriculture industry we could produce all the protein required by the world’s population 2050 with 2% of Earth’s land if we did it the way we’re producing our meat as opposed to more than 45% of Earth’s land that’s currently being used raising animals for food as we get closer and closer to building a piece of meat that has no differences from its animal protein equivalent we welcome in literally hundreds of thousands of new consumers with every incremental change and step we make forward to making this product as good as it could be the meat analog industry which laid down its roots in Europe in the 1970s with products like textured vegetable protein was traditionally seen as tasteless and unfashionable but in 2018 it had morphed into a more lucrative and exciting market one company beyond meat insisted that their plant-based burger be positioned in the meat aisle it was a gamble but knowing the product’s taste and texture had begun to mimic traditional meat bosses didn’t want it hidden away in the free from section within months of merchandising the burger it was out selling beef in some stores in Southern California and one of the largest conventional retailers in the country we are now the number one selling patty in any case so a head of Angus ahead of 80/20 beef ahead of Turkey chicken burger patties and our belief is that we will transform the meat section into the protein section so it’s no longer just hamburger chicken over chicken breast it’s cow protein chicken protein and plant protein and the results have been phenomenal we have launched this now into two largest retailers in the United States in several regions the beyond burger is the top-selling packaged burger in the meat section to have that level of interest in the products in the meat case itself this was really exciting other supermarkets began to position plant-based products in the meat aisle the meat analog industry quickly attracted high-profile investors such as one of Asia’s richest men leek King Bill Gates and Leonardo DiCaprio among others as influences around the world became increasingly aware of the impacts of animal agriculture the scale of the impact of the environmental impacts of my culture is really hard to appreciate it blows almost everything else out of the water it’s responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all planes cars trains and other transportation combined that is really shocking when you read that above the fossil fuel industry takes at least ten times as much energy and resources to make a pound of animal protein as it does for plant-based protein we cannot continue to sustain our population on the level of meat consumption that we are without having something change and what we’ve heard now is that we need to keep it below one and a half degrees temperature rise and in order to do that we must absolutely cut down on meat and dairy consumption and so it’s the quickest way that we have for grabbing the thermostat of the planet and turning it down even if we don’t care about ourselves we have our children eighty percent of all US antibiotics are fed to farmed animals getting too dangerous incurable human diseases the world has plenty of scope to feed 9 billion 10 billion 12 billion people but not if we’re all eating steak and chicken and pork we have to go to that plant-based diet if you know if there’s would be any fair settlement fair dispensation for the rest of the century so that we don’t have a situation where the rich can just pursue whatever desires they want while the poor die as a result the most striking statistic for me is that 100% of famine is a result of animal agriculture and I sometimes have people challenge that fact I’m like it takes 280 pounds of grain to make one pound of beef you fed that grain directly to people and building meat from plants quickly became a huge scientific research effort new facilities were set up and the stage was set for huge change we live in an age of disruption we have uber and lyft disrupting the taxi cab and limo industry we have Airbnb disrupting the hotel industry and we need to disrupt the entrenched fast-food industry those dinosaurs we are almost 50 percent preferred by meat consumers over the meat they get today and so in two three years we’ve essentially caught up to the cow but we’re only getting better and we already know a bunch of ways that we can make our product better from the fat system the way the flavors generate the texture and the chew and as we continue to research and build that with our team we’ll start delivering this and you know next year and the year after it’ll be better and better to the point where the cowl really is completely obsolete as a technology for food oh you’re gonna love this you can have a great tasting juicy burger without the meat like my husband has an impossible burger and he is like this tastes like a regular burger to me I don’t know everything else on this thing we did the burger itself what do you think I like it this thing tastes like me it smells like me if you put it in the pan or put it in the grill it acts like meat and I’m telling you in the next let’s say five to seven years the impact on the meat industry is going to be strong none of what you say here comes from an animal not even the egg what we tend to do no matter what it’s focused on the things that matter or we’re reaching more people are we doing in a way that’s actually helping the planet instead of harming the planet and if the answer is yes to those things we feel good and if the answer is not we feel like assholes and our biggest question is is this thing is this person we’re hiring is this thing we’re doing increasing the probability that we do more good and if the answer is yes we’re going after it to test this out we got 10 regular cheeseburgers in ten impossible vegetarian burgers to do a little compare and contrast as businesses capitalized on the selling power of plant-based alternatives many physicians within healthcare dug deeper tastes great and you get to live longer that’s what plant-based eating is all about using the remarkable power of whole food plant-based nutrition to prevent and treat disease say goodbye to the days of just hot dogs and hamburgers on the hospital menu Good Samaritan is starting to incorporate healthier plant-based items in their patient diets every diet requires a little bit of thinking a little bit of learning some new tricks in the kitchen maybe learning some new tastes but a plant-based diet emerges as not only better for blood sugar control better for your weight better for your cholesterol better for your blood pressure but better in so many ways that we really think that’s the thing to recommend in 2018 a number of studies were published supporting the increasingly accepted idea that a Whole Foods plant-based diet is optimal for health one example being a review paper published in cardiovascular medicine stating that the only diet shown to reverse heart disease is a plant-based diet a sentiment echoed by physicians for a number of years heart disease is the number one killer in the United States and heart disease is reversible and preventable with nutrition we know we have the cure to heart disease we have the ability to eradicate heart disease a plant-based diet has also been shown to reverse type 2 diabetes hypertension and prostate cancer as well as prevent 14 of the 15 leading causes of death eating a plant-based diet has extraordinary health benefits reduce risk for hypertension reduced risk for high cholesterol reduced risk for cardiovascular disease I’ve seen patients who have full-blown diabetes go off of their insulin completely I’ve seen patients with hypertension that have been on multiple antihypertensives for years come off of all of their medications the British Dietetic Association and the American Academy of dietitians have both said that a well-planned vegan diet can be a completely healthful and optimal diet for anyone at all stages of life but this gushin opened up not just about how healthy plant-based diets are but also about what is wrong with our current system right now we have a system that is based almost completely on sick care instead of health care we call it health care but it really is sick care is money in dollars behind sickness we spend more money in this country than any other country in the world on health care and we don’t have better outcomes so somebody has to stop and say hmm what is going on here when you eat the standard American diet you get the standard American diseases and I don’t wish chronic disease on anybody but if people are eating a debilitating diet they’re gonna have debilitating diseases heart disease the diabetes the autoimmune diseases certain forms of cancer milk does a body good it’s not science it’s marketing it’s nonsense we were made to believe that meat based diets are superior to plant-based diets lie that has been exposed by medical experts again when people get a lot of animal products typically based protein your arteries are more likely to get clogged your arteries are more likely constrict the arteries are more likely to get clogged up with plaque and other things you get chronic inflammation which is an underlying causes so many chronic diseases your risk of premature death from pretty much everything goes up correspondingly and yet when you go on a plant-based diet you’re only getting a double benefit because not only you’re not eating the things that are disease promoting but you’re getting literally hundreds of thousands of other substances that are that are protective what you put in your body is either going to create disease of fighting there is no middle ground I’ve seen them reverse their high blood pressure reverse their diabetes reverse their obesity simply by telling them to go home and instead of using a scalpel use a knife and use a fork also in 2018 a number of athletes ditched animal products and films were announced that would slay the myth that you can’t be strong as a vegan someone asked me how could you get as strong as an ox without eating any meat and my answer was have you ever seen an ox eating meat vegan athlete started appearing in major magazines with bodybuilder NEMA Delgado gracing the cover of muscle and fitness and Jeremy rinder’s the fittest man in the Netherlands featuring on the front of men’s health I love you always asking like so where do you get your protein and love you don’t have a clue that there’s protein implants stop worrying about the protein because you’re good enough you know the strongest land animals horses elephants rhinos I don’t know gorillas they get their protein from plants during the winter Olympics Canadian figure skater and decade-long vegan Meaghan dermal made headlines around the world when she claimed to medals record holding marathon runner and vegan Fiona Oakes completed the atacama ultra marathon and as 2018 progressed numerous athletes spoke out about how a plant centred approach to eating had made them stronger including NHL players Ino Chara boxer Mike Rasheed soccer players Hector veteran jermain defoe and Chris Smalling as well as Lewis Hamilton I do feel the best I’ve ever felt in my life and went 32 years physically do any of you guys still eat meat nothing how hard was that not as hard as it is living at one and 25 is absolutely I’ve watched hundreds if not maybe thousands of people at this point have dramatic transformation plant-based athletes from a wide range of sports claimed podium positions in various competitions from world-class surfer Tia Blanco to power lifter Juliette Rosie’s Conroy and ultra runner Vlad axel as well as many others who also achieved stunning successes [Applause] thanks Aviva reckonin gives him a little nudge towards the right-hand side how about some moves into the lead of the Italian Grand Prix as more and more influencers adopted a plant-based diets businesses were starting to see how they could cash in on the movement why invest I blogger now my logo Naik promoted the plant-based lifestyle Stella McCartney made trainer history when she launched a vegan version of adidas iconic Stan Smith shoe and other fashion brands became increasingly aware of consumer demands for animal free clothing and accessories while luxury fashion houses like Gucci and Michael cause started ditching fur in 2017 even more names followed suit in 2018 including Belstaff Burberry John Galliano and Versace Versace for so long you know they were leaders in the fur industry and for Donatella Versace to literally come out and say you know what I’m done with that we’re winning for the first time ever the catwalks of London Fashion Week were completely fur free prompting calls for other cities to follow suit Helsinki banned leather and both Los Angeles and San Francisco voted unanimously to ban the sale of fur Burberry announced it would no longer use angora and fashion giant ASOS pledged to bans silk mohair feathers and cashmere a decision many credited to animal rights charity Pizza which inspired a number of high street shops including Topshop H&M and Marks & Spencer’s to stop using mohair away from fashion a key moment came when supermarket Tesco after hiring a director of plant-based innovation in 2017 launched a major plant-based line with more than 20 options rolling out across 600 stores it started an avalanche of dedicated vegan sections and product launches from vegan butter cheese and ice cream to sandwiches and other ready-made meals in light of new consumer demand due to less meat there’s a lot of meat people and meat industries gonna go down you know as stores expanded their meat free offerings these products became for the first time ever headline news alerting more and more people to the options available everywhere icky sweet potato yam banana and tomato cabbage spinach avocado cha-cha button bean and Coco courgette million planting rice and peas and pumpkin mango dates and guava chickpeas and cassava brussel sprouts and cauliflower onion fennel and cucumber plum Pierre and papaya aubergine and style I meant to thank in our home your bread in Homer flower watercress and okra tofu and sweeper bar couscous Ankara broccoli a coconut peaches apples apricot Redfoo Jack was so us our pistachios cashews and almonds Warren a peanut are so freakin sesame seed sunflower lemon orange pineapple and melon logo eaten garlic EG king a rocket photo and pomegranate ki week on and turning berries cherries and strawberries be too great see there’s a lot of food your now I heard this morning in twenty five thousand stores we are yeah which is fabulous it’s a wonderful experience yeah and certainly the buzzword that I’m hearing here as we walk up and down the aisles is plant-based everything is where it’s at people are now starting to recognize the abuses that exist in animal agriculture not only to animals but to workers to rural communities to the environment you know you look at the role of animal agriculture and climate change and antibiotic resistant and rainforest deforestation and ocean acidification so many things converge around the same intersection of what we put in our mouths every day but then everything went a step further when it was revealed that another product called clean meat could be brought to market by the end of 2018 what you’re seeing on your screen may like ground chuck but no animal was harmed making it instead this beep was grown from animal cells the results meet without the animal antibiotics or waste there’s a whole host of startups that are racing to commercialize the world’s first-ever meat and milk and eggs and leather and other animal products that as you correctly point out are grown from animal cells rather than from animal slaughter so go into a little more detail about how that is done so imagine taking a tiny sesame seed sized biopsy from an animal’s muscle tissue you put that biopsy inside of a cultivator where those cells which would grow into muscle inside of the animal’s body think they are still inside the body and then they grow into muscle exactly as they would in the animal’s body outside of the body and what that gives us the chance to do is to produce real meat that is much safer to eat and takes far fewer resources if meat boxes had been scared before now they had a real reason to be as a powerful vision was being created of a confinement and slaughter free world and the conversation around what the future of meat looked like reignited in an unprecedented way when we have a burger we have a piece of chicken or we have duck today the idea of eating meat and eating animal is one in the same tomorrow I think those two ideas will be separated we can eat meat we can eat all the meat that we want but it won’t require the slaughter or the confinement of an animal as clean meat gained widespread attention and funding the effect on meat industry representatives that rely on breeding and killing animals for profit became visible I’m not quite sure what it is and I’m not quite sure how it’s derived but I’d call it fake food you know when somebody’s been following a certain tradition for a long time they feel a threat by new people coming in who may also question the traditional ways in which they bought there’s a lot of guardianship of different categories of jobs and there’s often resistance I don’t believe it is meat but if if they call it meat then then how would they differentiate it and all of a sudden this new group comes in and they just want to call their product beef and right on our coattails and I think that’s wrong the US Cattlemen’s Association a trade group made up of 10,000 ranchers was one of the loudest detractors u.s. Cattlemen’s Association filed a petition last month with the Department of Agriculture it argues lab-grown and plant-based products should not use the terms meat or beef on their labels the United States Cattlemen’s Association is now petitioning the country’s Department of Agriculture to define meat is coming from the flesh of an animal slaughtered in the traditional way we don’t agree with the term clean meat that implies that traditional ranching is dirty the biggest concern is that it implies real meat is somehow dirty politics and corporate greed they go hand in hand do not believe the labels and the lies and the adverts and the propaganda and the scams are these industries we are approaching the tipping point we have the momentum but the other side is fighting back every action has an equal and opposite reaction animal rights groups have been exposing shocking videos of inhumane conditions at factory farms I am an undercover investigator and I have never gone into an operation that we’ve targeted and seen happy animals it’s institutionalized torture on a scale that we’ve never seen before in the history of humankind time and again our undercover investigations behind these closed doors of the meat milk and dairy industries are revealing systemic animal suffering I defy any person here anyone yeah to look at the images of those animals and say that this suffering is ok it’s not it is unacceptable but what we’re doing is unspeakable it’s despicable and it’s ignorant and I see a clear change a change is going to happen very soon I can see it as information around the impact of animal agriculture was disseminated worldwide companies began to accept the inevitable fate of the growing plant-based sector the future looks really really bright for plant-based and it’s being recognized by leaders in the industry not only the plant base but even but companies big meat companies like Tyson that are invest and plant-based the more insightful meat bosses had already started investing in alternative protein with Tyson president Tom Hayes saying if you can’t beat him join him before investing in clean meat company Memphis meets Canadian conglomerate Maple Leaf Foods bought vegan brand filled roast and German poultry company phw backed vegan seafood and as 2018 progressed investment funds took notice and transferred significant capital into the meat analog industry however it was one business man that really stood out Jeremy Collard one of the most influential businessman in financial equity founded the fair initiative an anti factory farming investor group with assets worth over 8 trillion dollars which included Swiss banking giant UBS as well as injecting large quantities of wealth into the plant-based sector this group also encouraged supermarkets to offer more plant-based options and lobbied for a meat tax farm animal investment risk and return initiative says that a tax on meat is inevitable we’re not talking about PETA here or some lobby group this is a this is a influential group while some sort of meat tax is the answer to a number of environmental issues others laughed at the idea you hear environmentalists are pushing for attacks on me claiming hamburger steaks and other delicious delectables are harmful to the environment the media are up there as guilty parties with the oil industry with the coal industry and they stop us from thinking they stop us from questioning they stop us from recognizing where we stand with respect to our multiple predicaments and in so doing they perform a grave disservice what they do is what I call fake environmentalism they tell people to change their lightbulbs and drive an electric car but they’re not telling them to do the most important thing if you’re an environmentalist which is give up meat and dairy and switch to a plant-based diet while the mainstream media stuck to the traditional narrative social media was used any good movement that is successful as those extreme people it also has a softer people try and get people to grow any number of celebrities started speaking out why the mission here’s why I’m tired of being pimped by food companies and then eating bad poisonous food and then feeling horrible in the morning and then working working working and not taking care of my body that’s why innovative chefs started actively casting off the limitations of traditional cuisine offering mainstream audiences vegan food here break it down the British plant-based chefs and authors of the new cookbook Bosch Henry Furth and ENFP speak we’ve got three vegan chefs and they’ve all prepared some of your favorite dishes a daughter kabob and a pizza yeah mac and cheese for anybody that’s out there and they’re thinking like they want to change the life and they want to go plant base and they just think they can’t do it I just want people to understand that like no matter what your tradition is you can make a new one you know I’m saying like the same traditions and the same laws that you follow somebody thought that up it wasn’t like it wasn’t like some God came on the earth wrote this on the tablet it was like that’s how we have to do it and that’s it if you see something’s wrong and you see something feels better go for what feels better and the good news is there’s a convergence of forces that after four decades you know finally makes this the right idea at the right time and basically as I look around the table dr. Dotson no meat is that is that what I’m sensing here good concision I don’t know anything is in it Thanks you know we’ve been hearing so much about plant-based eating lately haven’t we right and I don’t know I’m a meat-eater but it gives you food for thought I think the most important message that I have is to remember that you and I’m speaking to you watching this film you make a difference you as an individual make a difference what you do each day actually is affecting what’s going on in the world each day so your life matters you matter and use your life work wisely we’re going to pack up I pack up all the sides pack up all the food pack up all the tables take it all to the car okay and about 15 minutes we’re gonna hang out any of the cars all right and then we’ll come back okay so then what they do well they probably will do is radio through to the trucks apparently there’s some trucks being held back then they’ll send them through and by that time we’ll be back here and yeah tricking they trick us we’ll trick them throughout 2018 an increasing number of people engaged in activism shining a light on standard practices within industry by either waiting outside slaughterhouses to bear witness to the animals facing death raiding slaughterhouses themselves making videos on the kill floor or partaking in cubes of truth NBC 6 anchor Trina Robinson joins us tonight with more on this new group that you may have seen in protests around the area Trina yeah the group is called anonymous for the voiceless they want people to think about the rights of animals and where their food comes from dairy found the right owner Terry Bob now can’t face the reality how can you morally justify pays for it difference in church what about the choice the animals the other preference to live that life you see we can eat other things it’s not a necessity for us to be animal products we can survive and thrive but a plant-based diet often what people mean when they say it’s their personal choice is that it’s a free choice they’re making and they’re not making their choices freely because without awareness there is no free choice and the vast majority of people are not aware of how they’ve been deeply conditioned knowledge is power and when we’re giving both sides the argument we can make a conscious decision based on how we truly feel about the situation it is so long we infect the same kind of propaganda you need me for protein you need and dairy cows milk for calcium but actually this isn’t true and when we can kind of level the playing field and put across what’s actually happening to animals the terrible suffering that they go through and the environmental damage that it causes to our whole planet I think when people have that power that more compels them power to make informed decisions I didn’t change until I truly knew the horrific nature of how these animals were treated and so what these activists are doing the only thing they’re doing is really journalism they’re they’re going and filming inside of these facilities as public awareness started to grow farmers found themselves under increasing pressure for then of course you did get death threats which was quite ironic coming from with one farmer Allison wall insinuating she had received death threats during a segment broadcast by the BBC she later clarified that she personally had not been the target of death threats but it was too late as a vaudeville of unsubstantiated accusations against vegans spread across the globe it was clear the media witch hunt had begun these guys are terrorists for the farming community they’re terrorists vegans are traveling down the path to radicalization they put my picture up with these claims without evidence or no me d-don’t to figure in the most cases it is peaceful and legal but farmers say they’re also facing regular harassment and abuse it’s summed up the strange mood of our time where even though veganism had never been more popular and initiatives like plant-based News’s world plant milk day reached record numbers vested interests impeded momentum it’s true that animal agriculture and many people within it are trying to hold on to the status quo and activists are up against an industry that makes billions even various social media platforms which had once been heralded as driving the Information Age were believed to be censoring environmental and vegan related pages and as this happened it left the public questioning institutions and corporations susceptibility to collude with the world’s most powerful industry do you know what is a multi-billion dollar Lobby the cheese Lobby has a multi-billion dollar Lobby the dairy industry the beef industry there’s also a gag laws that prevent people from filming agricultural gag laws that prevent people from filming on these factory farms because they don’t want people to know how horrific those conditions are that’s completely closed the meat industry you cannot see behind the curtain and you can’t even talk about it in certain states there’s laws where you’re not even allowed to talk about what goes on this is huge business and so there’s a lot of money being funneled into ensuring that we are deluded into this idea that these have a place on a healthy plate not only did the animal agriculture industry continue to siphon off tens of billions in the form of subsidies but there was more evidence of how federal agencies were working with the meat industry to intimidate activists and that’s why these corporations which control the government in control law enforcement are prosecuting them they’re punishing them in response to the journalism that they’re doing to chi’lan deter people from shining a light on what it is the fees that really goes on inside of American industrial farms and the horrific torture and suffering that animals endure in in in our name the meat industry invested in nitrate-free so-called healthy bacon and at a contentious move desperate meat bosses even licensed superhero images in an effort to peddle processed burgers and sausages to children the way advertisers subliminally equates mean eating and dairy consumption with values that we cherish is really sinister and it’s misleading they equate meat to masculinity they equate eating dairy to femininity they equate meat and dairy to upward mobility patriotism social status keeping up with the Joneses Family Values it has nothing to do with any of it in fact quite the contrary it’s hurting families it’s creating disease it’s a bad influence on our society so what they’re doing is really really morally wrong three major meat boards joined forces in a bid to push their products onto consumers whose data showed we’re starting to turn their backs on meat meat products are rapidly losing popularity right across Canada as many people are switching their diets to vegetarian or vegan in fact by the summer of 2018 it was revealed that the vegan sector had skyrocketed and growth of plant-based food sales were outpacing that of meat and dairy tenfold this story was being repeated in regular market forecasts which predicted even more growth saying the global plant milk market would exceed 21 billion dollars by 2024 this was helped by vegan milk brand to emblazoned major transport hubs and buildings with ads that said oat milk is like milk but made for humans a local group promoting veganism is using some bold imagery to get their point across [Music] as sales exceeded targets leaving shelves bare but the message amplified around the world resulting in pushback from the dairy industry well I got milk you may be one of the millions of Americans who prefer a plant-based substitute like almond milk or soy milk but the FDA is looking to change what those products are allowed to be called just the other week the FDA announced a proposed rule that would ban the use of the term milk for all non dairy products in similar fashion to the meat industry the dairy industry crackdown on the labeling of its plant-based counterparts but then took things further by firstly calling on the Canadian and US government’s might for financial assistance secondly branding anti milk posters a hate crime and thirdly funding research that produced headline-grabbing claims in an attempt to conceal the real impact of the dairy industry from the public you can’t hide the Sun you can’t hide the moon and you can’t hide the truth and the truth will come out [Music] I’m here so excited to be a part of this because I think this moment can be about so many different things and for me I want to bring a message which is veganism and that there doesn’t have to be torture and fabulous fashion throughout 2018 celebrities continue to share information about the benefits of a plant-based diet including Miley Cyrus Kings of Leon starred Jared Followill Alicia Silverstone Bryan Adams and Zac Efron iconic actor and activist Pamela Anderson said a vegan diet improved her sex life Chris Hemsworth credited the lifestyle for his muscular physique as did Jackass star steve-o and neo while other well-known personalities announced they had ditched animal products including Chris Packham Tom Ford Shaun King Ellie Goulding and Ellen Pompeo former cardiac surgeon and entertainer bassem youssef promoted the plant-based lifestyle to the Arab world and the diet even reverberating around royal families thankfully my passion and my field is not in finance or in or in Investment Banking but it’s in making the world better celebrities used their profiles to share an animal-rights message for example Alan Cumming actively campaigned against dairy Sopranos star Edie Falco protested the treatment of animals outside McDonald’s in Times Square Evanna Lynch spoke at London’s animal-rights March and Lewis Hamilton shared animal rights videos across social media I can’t imagine going back I think those things that I see my friends eating and I used to eat it and I’m like I feel sick to think what you’re putting in your body but it’s because now I’ve read about it and I understand I understand it I’ve read some of the science that’s been I don’t like it here even without me it is a diet trend growing in popularity with athletes and celebrities including of course Tom Brady Detroit Lions running back the or it ik and Red Wings player David Booth also following plant-based diets and you know who does as well Beyonce while Beyonce promoted a plant-based diet using social media other celebrities took to film to spread awareness the most notable being James Cameron who executive Li produced the game changes which Arnold Schwarzenegger artists Fortson ager one of the most recognizable figures and symbols of power is in this documentary so this is the best plant-based documentary in human history other films were announced many with high-profile casts including eating our way to extinction eating animals running for good taking note let us be heroes what you eat matters and cowspiracy sequels cease pharisee set to expose the fishing industry when we first embarked on this project we had no idea that we’re becoming across the levels of destruction that we have been we’re looking at be probably the most serious problem on the planet right now is diminishment of biodiversity especially in our ocean towards the end of 2018 the urgency around climate change made headlines there is a new report out about climate change and it is not positive to say the least and you’re gonna break it down for us yeah it’s not positive I mean it just keeps getting worse urgent transformational change that is the headline that is what we’re talking about that’s what needs to happen for us to really make a difference here and we’re not just talking on specifics we’re gonna nail down the numbers here because they got very specific in this report I’ve been reading through it a new study described as the most comprehensive of its kind added more weight to the discussion around the impacts of animal agriculture the UN branded meat the world’s most urgent problem and by the end of the year mankind’s effect on the planet was blamed for hurricane Florence which ravaged the east coast of America and highlighted the damaging consequences of industrial farming in the lead-up to the storm millions of animals were locked up and left to drown so that farmers could claim insurance a damning example of how animals are viewed as mere commodities over 99% of farmed animals lived on factory farms most of the population does not understand nor the abuse that goes on in these farms this was further highlighted in Dominion a cinematic expose of factory farming in Australia narrated by Kat Von D Sadie sink SIA Joaquin Phoenix and Rooney Mara premiers of the movie sold out globally from the UK to China with Australian agricultural groups reportedly bracing themselves for a backlash it was clear the meat industry was growing weary of how the expose might affect its business as the Dominion movie kick-started a movement with thousands taking to the streets to protest the global exploitation of animals a powerful and stark vision started unfolding of the coming battle between two sides of history [Music] and animals in our society are the most vulnerable with that we have you know and you know if there’s anyone in this world that should be protecting the vulnerable it should be us guys you know we should be leading from the front and and you know I think that’s what being a real man is it’s not a bit you know doing all this macho shoot it’s actually about you know acknowledging what’s what’s true and being honest to that get back it’s like the stuff we’re doing to animals is so fucked like honestly it’s so fucked up when when you take a step back and look at what we’re doing [Music] just give me a sec every revolution starts with a whisper but the real change comes with the roar I fully expect to go to prison someday and I’m totally fine with that because I think it is the cost of creating change I think what Mahatma Gandhi said you can judge the society by the way it treats its animals that’s pretty reasonable observation from a very wise man so why don’t we get wise mean possible farmers transparent is anything but transparent the things that we do to animal in terms the mutilations are not transparent what happens in slaughterhouses is not transparent and even on a dairy farm things like male calves and femur caste was separated from their mothers many people don’t know about all the who do not know that this makes you feel stupid like oh let’s leave I feel stupid if I don’t look and see something’s wrong I don’t do the wrong and we keep continuing doing the wrong just because of horrible traditions because just in some tradition it doesn’t make it right you know for me it’s an ethical decision you know I don’t want to I don’t want to fuck with something that can’t defend itself none of us are trying to be horrible people we’ve just been brought into this world well we just all this fucked up shit has been seen oh there is no such thing as humane slaughter what to say I’m calling time on this industry I think time is well and surely passed make no mistake there is no happiness in the dairy industry if any other organism did this a biologist what corner the virus this is a big big leap this is the ultimate test for Humanity the Arctic Ocean is heating up at a much faster pace than the rest of the earth temperatures over parts of the Arctic will increase as much as 54 degrees Fahrenheit this month if there is a future for Humanity that future will not involve using animals for food veganism is the solution and it encompasses a much wider range of possibilities for happiness as a species than any other type of diet or life style you know if you really think about it veganism is the cheapest shit out there you can go get rice and beans every day and you’ll be satisfied that’s the Chivas that you can get it’s filling its nutritious it’s healthy it saves the environment and it’s ethical looking back at the last 12 months 2018 like last year showed significant progress in the way the mainstream started to adopt veganism major magazines repeatedly brought up veganism including the New Scientist and the FT weekend’s government institutions like the NHS began to acknowledge the benefits of a plant-based diets and companies like wework implemented major changes it was revealed this week the global office sharing company we work are going meat free organizations gave awards to vegan entrepreneurs including the World Economic Forum and the United Nations let’s start to take protein directly from plants and use science to design and implement that against the blueprint of meat honestly if I’m bein serious I wouldn’t be surprised if we say mmm I see massive shift in the next 10 to 15 years the quickest and easiest way for an individual to be to feel empowered and to make a difference and to be able to look at 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