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Dr Shireen Kassam – What to eat to reduce the risks of cancer

Dr. Shireen Kassam, MBBS, FRCPath, PhD is a UK-based Consultant Hermatologist with a specialist interest in the treatment of patients with lymphoma (cancer of the lymphatic system). She is passionate about promoting plant-based nutrition for the prevention and reversal of chronic diseases and for maintaining optimal health after treatment for cancer.
So thanks, everyone. I’m going to take you through some aspects of nutrition and cancer
prevention and go through the evidence for this. And what I hope to cover in this talk are
the following:

– how diet contributes to cancer development

– how to reduce your risk of cancer

– how you might improve survival after a cancer diagnosis and of course what we feel is the
components of a healthful diet

What we know is that cancer is the top cause of premature death in the UK, accounting for 42 percent of cases of premature death and one in two men in one or two females now develop cancer. And this trend is only increasing and more than 50% of all cancers are due to lung breast prostate and colon cancer. And I’ll use these as examples as we go through and the best estimate is that around 10 percent of your risk comes from genes.
So, you can influence more than 90 percent of your chances of getting cancer. But overall Cancer Research, UK states that 40% or more of all cancers are print preventable through civets, through sensible lifestyle approaches. So, where have we gone wrong and these are my thoughts on this. So I think we continue to doubt and disbelieve epidemiological data. If we continue to rely and only accept randomized controls and studies we are not going to take on board all the evidence that we have in front of us. Now, and I’ve already used the example of smoking, there is not a single randomized study showing that smoking causes cancer. There is an overemphasis on the understandings of the genetics of cancer once the cancer is actually developed. And it’s just too late at that stage. We continue to separate diet into its individual components, you know fat protein carbohydrates whereas we have to start thinking about healthful patterns of disease. Sorry, not disease diet, We continue to hope that supplements can compensate for an unhealthy diet and there’s not a single study that shows that supplementing your diet can prevent cancer. We allow Pharma and sorry Farooq. If you’re still in their audience we continue to allow Pharma to design and run our clinical trials because as society and governments, we can’t afford these big trials. And Pharma relies on drugs that are going to make the money and not diet interventions. And we fail to apply precautionary principle and I’ll come back to examples of this. So, going back to 1892 Scientific American published, this cancer is most frequent among those branches of the human race. We’re carnivorous habits prevail and a few years later in new york times, it was noted in Chicago that cancer was increasing amongst meat-eaters, particularly among foreign-born using foods derived from diseased animals. And on the other hand, Italian and Chinese, practically vegetarians, show the lowest mortality of all. And since this time, we have a wealth of data that confirm these associations between a predominantly animal-based diet and the rising incidence of cancer. And here are just a few of them in the ethic study, which is close to home. It’s the European prospective investigation into cancer and nutrition followed more than half a million individuals and ten European countries for over 15 years. And we’ve learned a lot from it. The Adventist studies have given us a wealth of information. Harvard University has produced two large studies in women, the Nurses Health Study and in men, their health professionals follow-up study and the National Institute of Health American Association of Retired Persons followed half a million people between the ages of 50 and 70 and is one of the largest ever studies.

And overall the conclusions are clear, from all these studies that not only does a vegetarian diet reduced heart disease, but it reduces your overall incidence of cancer by up to 18 percent. And for some cancers, as even more than this. And so, what we know is that cancer is predominantly an environmental problem and we know about smoking more than 90 percent of lung cancers are caused by cigarette smoke but what we fail to recognize is that diet is equally important. Maintaining a healthful weight, limiting alcohol sensible exposure to Sun and exercise are equally important. And where do these environmental lifestyle aspects sit in their process of cancer development?! So cancer develops in three stages like initiation, promotion, and progression. Initiation happens all the time as cells in our body minute. But on minute are being damaged by our genes, by viruses, by chemicals, by toxins, but not all of these damaged cells survive and not all of them become cancer. But over a period of years and decades, there’s promotion where these damaged cells can either lie dormant or they can develop and grow because they’re being given a growth environment and become clinically evident. And the later stages where it’s too late is where it, it’s progressed and there are metastases all around the body. So what do we know about our current animal-based diet? So, one of the major factors and this is not about fat shaming or, it’s stating facts that obesity is rising and obesity is increasing our risk of cancer. So at the moment, seven out of ten of us are overweight and three out of ten of us, are obese and these trends are only going to increase. And we know that at least 13 types of cancer associated with obesity. So some of our Communists such as breast cancer and bowel cancer and some of the rare really difficult ones to treat such as pancreatic and esophageal associated with being overweight weight. But what we know about diet and this slide is from following 60,000 Adventists in California, that those that maintain a healthful weight are predominantly plant-based. You can see here that the vegans are the only group that is within the normal healthy. BMI and how do we believe Abby City is causing cancer?! Mainly because fat cells lead to the production of hormones.

So we’ve heard a lot about estrogen and estrogen is fueling female cancers such as ovarian womb cancer and breast cancer there are higher levels of incident and insulin-like growth factor. When there’s an abundance of fat cells and in addition being overweight and having excess fat cells as an inflammatory environment in the body which leads to the production of chemicals and cytokines as promoting growth. And the other consequence of obesity that we’ve heard a lot about, is the increased risk and rise of chronic disease and this study was published just earlier this year in the BMJ looking at more than 400,000 people from Taiwan and showing that cancer death and cancer incidence was much higher in those who already had an underlying chronic disease, whether it be lung disease kidney disease heart disease or diabetes and up to a third of cancer deaths are being contributed to by an underlying chronic disease. So, despite the fact that I don’t want to break down diet into individual components. we have known for a long time that animal components, whether it be fat or protein, is associated with rising cancer rates. And this is from the China Study, which quotes a study published in 1986 in the Journal of cancer, showing that as countries increase their intake of fat on the x-axis. You can see the rising rate of cancer and there is breast cancer and the rate of dying of breast cancer increases with the amount of animal fat but when you do the same graph and look at plant foods and plant fats, you don’t get this linear Association.

And since this time, we have further studies that have shown that the higher intake of saturated fat which only or predominantly comes from animal-based foods there’s a higher risk of breast cancer, aggressive prostate cancer and interestingly even if you’re a smoker you know the amount of saturated fat you’re eating and influences your rate of getting lung cancer. And of course, you can’t separate fact from protein and this study followed more than 6,000 Americans over 18 years and showed that as the amount of protein, particularly animal protein, in the diet increases, you can increase your risk of cancer by four times. Whereas, a low protein diet mainly played May made up of plants results in a lower incidence of cancer and the w-h-o in 2015 based on a large number of dates. Data and studies produced by the International Agency for research into cancer, have classified processed meats and red meats as a carcinogen. So processed meat causes cancer. It’s a group one carcinogen and it’s contributing to 20% of all colorectal cancer in the UK and red meat’s a probable carcinogen.

So this is where I come back to the precautionary phew you know we don’t know for definite. It causes cancer, but if it probably causes cancer, of course, we should limit it in our diet. and why is this so, we’ve heard about the heme iron and causing a pro-oxidant environment and giving rise to high levels of free radicals so he- toxic to cells it also leads to the formation of nitrosamines which are carcinogens the nitrates and nitrites that they are used in the processing of meat and give it it’s red color and stop the production of botulism toxin, also cause the production of nitrosamine and for an example one hot dog results in the same amount of nitrosamine in the body as for cigarettes. And of course if you’re taking in these toxins and with the processed and red meats, you’re denying yourself the benefits of the health of the plants, which other that animal foods are devoid of fiber antioxidants and phytochemicals.

And it’s not just about animal foods. It’s about the type and the quality of diet that we’re eating. So this is just hot off the press and the BMJ that processed foods and they talk about ultra-processed foods that are so far removed from their initial ingredients that have used additives chemical salt sugar. And that have used cooking methods such as frying that result in the generation of carcinogens like acrylamide. And these processed foods are resulting in a 10 percent rise in the risk of overall cancer and just briefly to touch on dairy. I mean this quote really says it all for Michael clapper, the great proponent of plant-based nutrition. The purpose of cow’s milk is to turn a 65-pound calf into a 400-pound cow as rapidly as possible. So it’s full of growth fluid and it’s clear now that dairy, whether it’s milk and cheese is associated with increased risk of a number of cancers. But particularly prostate cancer and a large number of meta-analyses confirm this association. So why do we think that animal foods dairy result in increase in cancer rates? And it’s one of the main mechanisms, Is the role of insulin-like growth factors our igf-1 and we know this is important in the development of cancer because there is a group of individuals who have a rare form of dwarfism called larren syndrome. And they have a genetic defect in the growth hormone receptor they have particularly low levels of igf-1 and they’re virtually immune from cancer and also from diabetes, despite being overweight. And what we know is, our diet influences the level of igf-1 so this graph shows that on the left-hand side, a vegan diet results in the lowest levels of igf-1 in the blood and it also leads to a 40% rise in its finding pod proteins as mopping up all this free i GF one and that’s compared to a low-calorie diet in the middle and a Western more traditional anime animal-based diet on the right-hand side and we can influence our levels of igf-1 within a few days.

So, this study took a group of overweight middle-aged men and put them on a plant-based diet and asked them to exercise and within 11 days they had a significant reduction of igf-1 levels in their blood. And in the longer term, this reduced further the other hormone that is significantly different in the blood of plant eaters compared to animal eaters as estrogen. And so the hashed line at the bottom is data from the China study looking at individuals in rural China and the graph above in solid is comparing it to British women at the time and the lifestyle lifetime exposure to estrogen is about 30% less on a plant-based diet. And then we come back to the precautionary principle. We know that viruses cause cancer HIV htlv1 hepatitis B hepatitis C, we know that animal viruses can be transmitted to humans so slaughterhouse workers in the poultry industry killing chickens and turkeys all day long have a 9 times increased risk of pancreatic cancer and liver cancer and we know this is due to the transmission of a wart virus. So when it comes to viruses that we can detect in our blood, this is an example of bovine leukemia virus which this study showed to be present in not only normal breast tissue on the left-hand side but in 60% of breast cancer specimens you can see find evidence of the bovine leukemia virus.

Now people will say this as just correlation and not causation, which is true at the moment. But what are we doing with bovine leukemia virus in our blood? And surely we should have a take a precautionary view and not ingest the virus until we know it’s safe to do so. And then just touching on and what we drink alcohol, unfortunately, is a toxin and it’s associated with increased risk of at least 7 different types of cancer and when it comes to cancer risk, there is no safe amount to drink. So just to move on to what we consider a healthful diet and anti-cancer type diet, we come back to this power plate and we’re talking about fruits, grains, legumes and vegetables. And we’ve already heard about Denis Burkitt, an irish surgeon who did a lot of missionary work in Africa. And back in the 70s, he noted the beneficial effect of fiber. So he noted that those on a minimally processed diet eating mainly plants that virtually never got bowel disorders, whether that’s bowel cancer appendicitis inflammatory, bowel disease but as soon as your diet shifts onto processed food and animal foods the risk of tumor increases and since his study and his anecdotal evidence and we’ve had a large number of meta-analysis showing that the more we eat in our diet, the lower our risk of colorectal cancer. And also, last year the World Cancer Research Fund published a statement saying that the consumption of whole grains probably protects against colorectal cancer. And it’s not only the fiber but also the other nutrients in whole grains. And some of these nutrients we’re talking about are phytates, which are particularly good for protecting, preventing cancer and phytates are particularly high in legumes.

So beans and pulses and beans and pulses have been shown to reduce your risk of cancer. And this paper that’s quoted here, is a subanalysis of the pretty med study, which showed a 30% reduction with the more beans and legumes that you’re eating. And there’s also a phenomenon called the Hispanic paradox, where Hispanic Americans are living longer and getting less cancer despite the fact that they are just as overweight and obese as the non-hispanic Americans. And it’s thought to be their bean consumption or at least one of the factors as their bean consumption they eat about a third of all the beans eaten in America. And when we talk about beans, we also have to include soy and we’ve already learned today that soy is good for us, whether it be for reproductive health or heart health. But for certainly for cancer, we’ve got enough in our evidence to support the role of eating soy in the diet and this reference here is from a meta-analysis of 18 studies, looking at breast cancer incidence. And there’s a lower incidence in those who eat soy, there’s a lower risk of recurrence if you’ve had a diagnosis of breast cancer. And also it’s associated with living longer, after a diagnosis of soy. And it’s those isoflavones, the phytoestrogens that are acting in a slightly different way from human estrogen. And the other food that is also high in a phytoestrogen, is flax seeds. And they really should be incorporated into our daily meal plans because they are precursors of lignin and in the food then lignans are also phytoestrogens and they’ve been randomized studies in breast cancer and prostate cancer showing a beneficial effect in those who already have a diagnosis of cancer. And of course, fruits and vegetables are full of anti-cancer properties. The phytonutrients, the polyphenols, all those things that we know about.

But this study from 2017 brought together 95 different studies showing that increasing your intake of fruits and vegetables probably up to 10 portions a day leads to a significant reduction and not only all-cause mortality but around a 14% decrease in cancer incidence. And there’s some particularly healthful fruits and vegetables. So the red color in tomatoes green red peppers and chilies have lycopene, which is particularly anti-cancer properties cruciferous vegetables which are broccoli and kale and cabbage have precursor substances to sulforaphane which has anti-cancer properties. Berries are probably one of the most healthful fruits and vegetables to incorporate daily in your diet and then the Allium family which is the onions, the garlic leeks that lead to the generation of organosulfur compounds and for the medics and the audience we are beginning to understand how cruciferous vegetables work particularly in the gut. So stomach acid converts the indoles from these cruciferous vegetables into ligands for the aural hydrocarbon receptor, which is found on the lymphocytes in the gut. And this activates the lymphocytes into having a pro immune effect and preventing damage to the gut lining so it’s never too late. This study again bringing in Dean Ornish, he randomized 93 patients with early-stage prostate cancer, putting them on a plant-based plus exercise and stress relieving activities. And he had a control group that carried on their normal lifestyle and after a year, there was a significant reduction in the prostate-specific antigen level in the lifestyle group. And whereas, in the control group, there was an increase in the PSA suggesting cancer progression. And after two years the control group 27% of them needed intervention such as radiotherapy or surgery compared to only 5% in their lifestyle group. And when he took the blood of these individuals in the lifestyle group and dripped them over the cells of prostate cancer in the laboratory at baseline before the intervention they could only stop the growth of prostate cancer in the laboratory by 9%. But after a year this had increased to 70% and there is evidence now to suggest that changing your diet and altering your lifestyle after cancer diagnosis, can improve your chances of surviving and reduce your risk of recurrence for colorectal cancer, prostate cancer, and breast cancer. And when it comes to drinking, the most healthful drink appears to be green tea. There’s a lot of laboratory evidence supporting this, not so much in humans, but it seems to be beneficial for precancerous lesions such as in the gut, in the cervix, in the oral cavity and particularly prostate cancer as well.

The cautionary note here is, that probably shouldn’t take them as pills because they’ve been associated with liver damage. And also they’re certainly chemotherapy agents that interact with green tea so do check if you’re on chemo whether green tea is okay or not. And with all these foods and plant substances they appear to act to all stages of development of cancer so initiation promotion and progression and then talking about spices we should incorporate them liberally into our diets and the king or queen of spices is to murica there’s a lot of data on what we believe to be the active ingredient which is curcumin. But actually, they’ve been studies done with tumeric that is that has curcumin taken out and there still has healthful properties. And again, we believe that it works for all the different stages of cancer development. And the studies are mainly supportive in colorectal cancer, some data, and pancreatic cancer, but probably the best data and there are randomized control studies are in early stages of myeloma a type of bone marrow cancer. And again when we look at this as a little busy but what it shows is that curcumin works at all aspects of cancer development, whether it’s to prevent damage to DNA, whether it increases the death of these damaged cells or whether inhibits the growth of blood vessels such that the cancers can no longer grow any larger. So in summary, I hope I’ve explained how a large proportion of cancers are preventable through our dietary choices and of course, I haven’t mentioned other really important things like exercise, stress relieving active activities. An animal-based diet is contributing to this high cancer rate, but so are processed foods. So we can, we can’t afford to be junk food vegans and a whole food plant-based diet will reduce our overall risk of cancer. And I’ll leave you with this quote, just to read for yourselves thank you.


Healthy Eating : How to Detox or Cleanse Your Body

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Local Organic Farm Tour | Midwest Plant-based Vegan Lifestyle

You want beef at the price of bread right well the system can’t sustain the system the industrial system can turn it out but the system s and the earth can’t sustain the time that we spend to think our ideas to grow to match them with the dressing or inappropriate use and get them to your table and the time that you spend deciding who to come out with getting all the way out here and the time around the table that’s all part of your experience in a meal there are three tiers so you know those restaurants that next up you know that was delicious right and then the third tier life is good hey guys Aaron and dusty here and welcome back to eat move rest so clearly we’re not in the kitchen today we are actually taking you guys on an organic farm tour yes so Jerry and Renee Cornett are the owners of lake house farm which is an organic produce farm just north of Lincoln Nebraska where we live and we became acquainted with them and have gotten to know them over the years at our local Sunday farmers market they own an organic farm-to-table restaurant right there on the farm called Prairie plate we had an awesome tour they sat us down with fed us an amazing meal we were there for like we were basically there all day and we had an absolute blast these people care about quality of food organic farming just amazing practices all the way around yeah eating seasonal like it’s it’s about as good as it can get especially where we’re located right here in the heartland this is the way food should be they’re bringing it back and this this place is literally a hidden gem in every sense of the word especially for here in the middle of the Midwest in Nebraska where everybody’s just worried about belying up at the local steakhouse and all-you-can-eat buffets this is locally sourced seasonal organically grown fresh as fresh as it gets and a lot of thought and preparation goes into each and every plate the menu changes on a weekly basis based upon what’s growing at the farm so thank you Jerry and Renee we had a such an awesome day it was so much fun we might be back like every Monday we’ll just do like a farm tour and you can see this lunch that would be amazing look we will let them do the rest enjoy you guys around so enjoy

Hey guys Aaron here at Eaton arrest and I am with Jerry and Rene cornet of Lake House farm which is a certified organic produce farm just outside of Lincoln Nebraska when we opened this restaurant we thought okay let’s celebrate food right let’s make food fun yeah let’s make it a celebration she wanted to a relatively small restaurant where you’re the chef maybe assistant it’s personal yeah not personal you go talk to your table you know 56 seats you know restaurant that’s different yeah yeah we kind of keep going through that they just don’t know what they don’t know yet yeah you don’t even know to ask the question and so where do you get the word to people and they’re always so offended that come out of your mouth how come you’ve been over in five years and I didn’t know yeah the way the farm grows and what we grow is based on what’s the restaurant need you know as a nurse through the season the folks that come from outside are like yeah this is awesome this is a unique there are probably a dozen restaurants like this in the United States right you know and most of them charge a lot more than we do and then there are some people that are retired farmers and it’s interesting because often I get the comment from them you know we used to eat this way right yeah we used to we used to eat this way yeah yeah very there wasn’t a lot of slaughter yeah to do what I know yeah you don’t have enough freezer space to put it you know kidding what are you gonna do it what are you gonna do with all of them yeah you know we use a oil block system and it’s essentially this little block we start to see it in this is a this is a summer lettuce called grandpa admire it’s an heirloom lettuce that does well in the heat and so will will grow winter lettuces and then we transition to summer lettuces and then there’s a point where okay lettuce just doesn’t grow very well here because it gets too hot it gets really bitter and so what we do in the restaurant okay at that point stop and then you go to a salad that is tomato and cucumber or not lettuce the first item on the menu is always lake house farm salad it will change to be whatever it is and we have that’s the best from the farm and sometimes it’s so people see salad they automatically think that so it’s very important the server’s remember to tell them that the salad isn’t lettuce if it’s not lettuce because we’re used to thinking that’s the only choice mm-hmm primary purpose of this is really protecting it from the wind yeah it’ll get down to ten below in here and the kale will be fine yeah vintage will be fine really even the lettuce will survive one or two frost yeah we grow more Tomatoes out here and like two and a half rows are just sauced tomato sandwich ah no so we they’re meant to be cooked down two types of sweet peppers one is long and the other one the sheep nose pimento is a small one it’s like a slow food yeah smaller but it’s got a lot more meat flesh to it and the skin is still thin so you don’t really have to peel them for a lot of things if you’re gonna appear it use them in something but they stuff and cook really well yeah what’s all of you guys been organic since day one yeah it’s hard that like the certification process is pretty rigorous it is every year you submit a plan and then they review it and then they have an inspector to come out and it really comes down to you know doing with you said you were gonna do and then paying attention to things like soil health yeah in mild adversity like they just added a biodiversity page for us we looked at I look at this property in two ways one it’s got an incredible amount of biodiversity yep and so I just let it go I don’t try to do anything to change it [Music] [Music] out in the middle of the desert is hopeful California and and we took the kids out there once just to go out and walk with the desert you know do some other fun things stayed there there’s actually a little Museum and they explained to you you know this is the carrot we grow you know because it can grow and stand yeah and a machine can harvest it yeah and you know sand doesn’t you know though the vegetable it’s not picking up nutrients minerals from sunlight statement you’ve got an atom just about everything yeah we’re here we have clay soils which means they can be a little more problematic to grow in but in a lot easier because the particles smaller for that plan to take up all of those nutrients or minerals right and then convert it into I like one flavor for us but for others nutrients so that carrot that grows in a healthy humus organic matter rich soil is naturally going to take up all of that all those flavors yeah yeah looks like yeah a formula versus breast milk Oh site in the Roman period when his remedy was actually very good where these science knows better yeah and so we’re gonna make formula that’s gonna have it everything the baby needs in its gonna and then they were finding out wait we missed this we did you know about that and you can’t simulate this other thing and then there’s a so all of that stuff that we don’t know because nature’s better at it yeah that also works for other system I asked in fact it was an old man you know I think is a retired farmer he’s like I said like why do you buy our carrots like they taste like the ones my grandmother used to [Music] [Applause] [Music] so we just got plated lunch and we’ve got sweet potato vindaloo and some rice well along with some steamed and sauteed chart so we’re excited busy in the ponies perspective you know when you when you grow it for the season you grow it for the region and then you harvest it for flavor focus one you don’t need to do much in the kitchen and two you walk away more satiating yeah and it’s celebrity there are three tiers I think in the restaurant industry this came for books one is for so you know those restaurants yeah that next up that you know that was delicious right and then the third tier was life is good I think we want to be kind of between that was delicious and life is good love that somewhere in there yeah but it never tastes better than in context in the season at the time the place that’s grown it’s not going to get any better the time that we spend to pick varieties to grow to match them with the dressing or an appropriate use and get them to your table and the time that you spend deciding who to come out with getting all the way out here and the time around the table that’s all part of your experience in the meal yeah okay so we hope you guys enjoyed this video if you know the drill give us a thumbs up give us a like leave us a comment below leave us some love let us know what you liked what you want to see more of in the future subscribe if you haven’t already hit the bell to stay notified and as always follow aaron and i @db stanczyk and a-tearin stanczyk if you guys are digging on Renae and Jerry you can find them lake house farms calm or if you’re local and you want to check out their restaurant they’re open 5:00 to 9:00 on Wednesdays send a Wednesday through Sunday so anyway we had a blast doing this we hope to do more live out in the field maybe farm tours just meeting people and yeah we’re gonna start to get more collaborative we’re gonna do more supporting local hope you guys are into it so until next time be sure to eat seasonal eat fresh by organic go to your local farmers market and as always eat move rest your best buy was a joke there that the Catholic priest yeah goes up in the Navy Catholic priest show us up checks in moves his stuff in and promptly everything is told and then they realized he was a Catholic priest yeah so they brought it all back.



I want to share with you some results from a very important series of studies in 2003 the National Institutes of Health funded the Physicians Committee to study head-to-head a low-fat vegan diet and a more conventional diabetes diet for people who had type 2 diabetes up until that point people were saying okay well if you have diabetes that means there’s too much sugar in the blood don’t eat sugar don’t need too much carbohydrate that turns to sugar if you need to lose weight cut calories that was the conventional diet we wanted to see if a completely plant-based diet a vegan diet with no limit on calories no limit on carbohydrates would be as effective or maybe even more effective than the conventional diet well in 2006 we published the first results and what we found was astounding when you looked at people who made no changes in their medications at all the people who went on the conventional diet they did well the measure we use is called a1c hemoglobin a1c is a measure of your blood glucose control for about a three month period and for them it improved by about 0.4 absolute percentage points that’s good but for the vegan group it dropped three times more by one point two absolute percentage points that’s like a real heat crate pharmaceutical I have to say but except instead of being a pharmaceutical it was all food so the vegan diet was dramatically effective the next question was what happens when people follow it over the long term so in 2009 in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition we published the long-term results and what we found was that with a conventional diet people tended to get back to where they started but with the vegan diet there was a little bit of give back but they were still healthier after the follow-up period than they were at the beginning dr. Esselstyn is a surgeon but as he will tell you he would rather not have to operate on people at all he’d rather get to the cause of their disease and so what he tackled was heart disease he brought in people who had existing heart disease and and I’m not talking about I’ve got a high cholesterol level I’m at risk these were people who had heart disease now they were at risk of premature death and many of them were on medications a list as long as your arm and what he said is let’s go to the cause the causes the cholesterol the animal fat that’s in meat and dairy products even fish he throw those threw those off the plate completely so this was a completely vegan diet and over time he found that as people are getting away from those foods and they’re enjoying the greens and the beans and the healthy vegan foods that have no cholesterol and no animal fat something happened in their bodies not only was their cholesterol level falling their blood pressure improving their weight melting away but the arteries were starting to open up again their chest pain melted away and instead of being at risk of premature death they were really living again and dr. Esselstyn showed that when people adhere to this program they become just about bulletproof so people may need medical treatments of all kinds but treatment number one is a healthy diet and that’s what dr. Esselstyn proved I want to share with you the results of a really important research study it was done by dr. Dean Ornish now you know dr. Ornish as the medical genius who showed that you can reverse heart disease through a program of lifestyle changes including a healthy diet well he then set his sights on prostate cancer as you know it’s a big killer of men particularly in their later years so what dr. Ornish did was he brought in a group of men and half of them were in the control group getting the treatments their doctors recommended the other half began a completely vegan diet it’s good for your heart will it be good for cancer now what he found was that among the people who were in the control group about six of them couldn’t wait anymore they had to go ahead and have treatment before the study was over I mean they had to have surgery or they had to have radiation because their cancer was progressing too quickly but in the vegan group nobody needed treatment in this year-long study because they were tracking their blood tests their PSA prostate specific antigen showed that their cancer wasn’t progressing in fact for them their PSA levels actually dropped by about 4% overall over the course of the year so it looks like a healthy plant-based diet isn’t just great for your heart it’s also good for cancer prevention and for cancer survival


The Science of Vegan Fat Loss

Hey it’s Mike here and today fat loss particularly the science of why a vegan diet gives you a major advantage in achieving a healthier less disease promoting body composition and what I’m most excited about is that we’re going to cover a little-known compound which is essentially an appetite off switch which is pretty much missing from everybody that eats a Western diet system we’ll look at research on how that switch actually reduces desire for high energy foods how to turn that switch on and so much more all with some epidemiology sprinkled in now first I want to mention that fat loss is a sensitive subject and that’s why I want to look at this from more of a public health angle this isn’t about aesthetics this isn’t about being hot this is about increasing the amount of years that you could have where your quality of life is good where you’re mobile and so forth so let’s go now for some background I could go on and on and on about obesity statistics but something that’s still lesser-known among people is that vegans average normal BMI in terms of Western groups they’re the only diet group to do so and that’s been shown in the epidemiology both in the UK and the US so it’s across the board but what’s probably more amazing is all the clinical trials on ad libitum vegan diets that result in weight loss ad libitum meaning eating as much as you want of course these aren’t processed foods from this one we see a notable weight loss after just seven days and from this study the broad study what the authors described as the most effective weight loss diet at six and twelve months without restricting calories or adding exercise which is incredible and for some grade-a anecdotes I know several people who have lost over a hundred pounds on a vegan diet but focusing back on the studies because that’s what really matters this isn’t just theory we’re talking about this is a measurable reality so why what’s going on here I want to emphasize that this isn’t the main force at work here but vegans do have some basic behavioral advantages if you’re just walking into a gas station going to a party going anywhere the chances of a vegan being able to eat cake is just way lower in the words of Marie Antoinette let them eat cake unless they are vegan then though that is changing vegan junk foods and snack foods are becoming much more ubiquitous but the main difference here is the attributes the qualities of the foods that are making it into vegans mouths first other people and possibly the most power full body trimming tool in the vegan diet other than maybe just relinquishing all animal fat is fiber I know it’s just fiber yeah we’ll get to the exciting appetite switch stuff in a second but first we got to cover the basics firstly in the u.s. about 97% of people do not get enough fiber according to the Institute of Medicine they are fiber deficient and this is such a simple point but fiber rich foods have more volume for the amount of calories they have and so if we’re zooming in on the stomach we have this network of neurons wrapping around our stomach that go oh I’ve eaten enough volume my stomach is getting full then it sends signals to your brain and says don’t eat anymore and across-the-board animal products are high in energy and fat and low in volume they are devoid of fiber and therefore it takes a lot more to fill up your stomach and tell your brain that you’re full but a diet high in fiber is what our stomach what our whole system is used to from this study quote evidence suggests that for most of history the human lineage consumed more indigestible plant material such as grasses sedges and tubers than is present in a typical western style diet over hundred grams per day of dietary fiber compared with less than 15 grams per day in the average modern day diet but our body’s appetite system is much more complicated than just how expanded our stomach is and how hungry are throughout the day depends on a lot of things and that brings me to that appetite switch that I talked about at the beginning of the video and it is propionate be amazed it is a short chain fatty acid which is ironic because it prevents fat gain which is created as a result of your gut bacteria breaking down fiber I know it’s kind of a weird word propionate my name is nate propia Nate hey man I just wanna let you know I’m a pro oh yeah pro what PIA Nate yeah like a pianist you play the piano no a pro Pia Nate okay now you’ll never forget this word cuz that’s how you remember things make them weird that’s how they when memory competitions from this study quote in humans increased colonic production of the short chain fatty acid propionate acutely reduces energy intake so how does it actually work though well you eat some fiber the little microbes in your gut digest it they spit out propionate propionate eventually signals the appetite centers of your brain the hypothalamus that you are less hungry saying what are your fall now and from this study you can actually take an MRI do a brain scan of somebody and measure the increase in signals to the hypothalamus the appetite center of the brain after eating fiber further suggesting a satiating effect so it appears that this is just part of our natural appetite regulation system from eating so much fiber throughout human history that fiber meant food but for the average modern person it’s as if we have just taken that out extracted that system and people are just missing it it’s almost akin to surgically removing all those nerves around your stomach just removing a part of the you get what I’m talking about back to that study most amazingly propionate was shown to reduce calorie consumption by about 14% at a buffet meal America needs this America needs propionate propaganda 2020 seriously if that rate of calorie reduction can be extrapolated to all of the u.s. then we would bring our calorie consumption back to like 80s levels and looking at this familiar map it’d be like rewinding it back to about here and that is a very different United States but the fascinating wonders of propionate don’t stop there it also has to do with our reward system and food desire this study found that after giving people appropiate their brain reacted less dramatically to high energy foods so comparing say chili cheese dogs to cucumbers with the propionate that the difference was less dramatic from the researchers quote our results suggest that colonic propionate production may play an important role in attenuating reward based eating behaviors because propionate works with the reward system in this way it definitely has some implications for food addiction and binge eating simply put if you’ve had enough fiber in the last 24 hours then you’re gonna be less likely to crave these unhealthy foods less likely to reach for foods that you’re addicted to foods that you don’t actually want to eat and I want to emphasize that this isn’t cutting off people’s appetite to some unhealthy degree this is just resetting the system to where it’s supposed to be now I want to address a concern that I get really whenever I talk about vegan diet and weight loss on this channel which is completely understandable because statistically there gonna be some more robust vegans and obviously it’s pretty frustrating probably to watch me just talk about how a vegan diet leads to weight loss all the time when it may be din for somebody but let’s investigate this firstly not all vegan foods are created equal we have the health foods we have the less healthy foods and I want to emphasize just how dramatic that difference is we can simply compare corn tortillas regular tortillas to corn chips which are really sliced up tortillas with oil ok corn tortilla without oil is 11 percent of total calories from fat and one ounce is about 60 calories well a corn chip corn with oil is 55 percent of calories from fat and one ounce is over a hundred and fifty calories that’s like three times as many calories once again I have to say it’s not a health food in theory you could eat almost three times as many corn chips as regular corn tortillas until you get the same appetite triggers until you get the same amount of fiber and so forth and this principle of oil plus food equals just way way way more calories applies to all sorts of foods just cooking foods and oils fries are just potatoes with oil I’m getting really heated about this and maybe you do require a higher fat food to feel completely satiated whether you are a vegan coming off a standard American diet and so let’s compare some whole plant high-fat foods vers some animal foods for example let’s just compare one ounce of avocado verse one ounce of cheddar cheese America’s favorite cheese wouldn’t that be American cheese the avocado actually has 60% less calories per ounce than the cheese despite having a higher total fat content in terms of macronutrients in terms of the total percentage of calories from fat which is actually 77% because of the fiber and because of the water so not to be a broken record but once again whole plant foods are just the best and moving on to a major concern I just talked so much about how great fiber is but a lot of people go oh my god if I eat more fiber than I’m gonna get stomach issues and bloating and stomach pains and so forth I do have a whole video dedicated to reducing bloating when transitioning to a vegan diet but I have some new information particularly from gastroenterologist dr. Angie sadeghi she was Leon the nutrition rounds podcast a new podcast you should definitely check out and she made some points that really really made me think first of all she’s just a living example of somebody that did lose weight and get super fit going on a plant-based diet the images speak for themselves but the point here is that if you want to dodge getting an upset stomach from fibre when you’re transitioning not only do you need to ramp up the amount of fiber that you eat but you also need to diversify the sources of that fiber and the reason for that is that we have a ton of different types of bacteria and they all eat different things and so if you have a limited amount of pinto bean eating bacteria then maybe you eat a ton of those pinto beans and you end up with a bunch of undigested material and gas and so forth but if you split the same amount of fiber in those pinto beans between yams and maybe lentils and veggies then you’re gonna have a bunch of different bacteria that could do the job hopefully she also mentioned upping the types of plants that you already eat because you probably already have the bacteria to digest those and that way you can eat more fiber without having a reaction in the end as a nation and a Western society in general we definitely need to eat more fiber to tell our stomach when it’s fall as well as to get that propionate and make those propionate gains and all I think willpower around diet is a subject for an entirely different video at least propionate gives you a little bit of an advantage in terms of how much you’re craving those high-fat foods those foods that are not good for you in the end it’s about your body using its natural satiation system to know when to stop eating and I’ll go ahead and throw my bloating prevention video in there because there are a ton of points I didn’t even talk about in that video and let me know down below if you have any video suggestions I’m gonna try and crank out some extra videos through January cuz that’s when a lot of people are like I’m gonna do it I’m gonna go vegan


Vegan Nutrition: What Does the Science Say?

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Norris co-founded vegan outreach in 1993 and is currently the president vegan outreach produces the booklet why vegan among many others and has distributed over 10 million copies to date Jack runs vegan outreaches adopt a college program which has directly handed a vegan outreach brochure to over 3 million students since its started in the fall of 2003 Jack is a registered dietitian he earned a Bachelor of Science degree in nutrition and dietetics from the life in university in Marietta Georgia and 2000 and performed a Dietetic internship at Georgia State University in 2002 2001 jack is the author of vitamin b12 are you getting it staying healthy on plant-based diets and other health articles found at vegan health org and Jack NARS are decom this evening mr. Norris will present vegan nutrition what does the science say please welcome Jack Norris [Applause] then thank you very much Lorraine thank you to the Hawaiian vegetarian society for having me here I’ve only been to ye one other time and it’s just really amazing it’s hard to believe people get to live here year-round I was also invited by the northern Michigan vegetarian society to speak this weekend and I I think I chose wisely okay so my talk tonight is what does the science say before I get into it too much I want to say a few things about vegan outreach this is our website vegan outreach org and we have a free weekly e-newsletter that comes out every Wednesday if you’re interested in signing up for it you can just click right here if you go to our website and it gives a lot of updates on what’s happening in the vegan world so please do that if you’re interested what vegan outreach is most known for is our pamphlet why vegan which we distribute and we also have a few other booklets that are very similar to it but have a slightly different tone and we deliver as lorraine mentioned we hand them out to college students in the last couple years we’ve been giving handing about five hundred thousand to college students every semester at over 500 colleges normally I asked them to pass out this and this booklet a meaningful life I don’t know if everyone got one but if you didn’t please grab one at the table over there if you’re interested it’s about the vegan outreach philosophy of activism and veganism and that sort of thing and gives you tips on how to deal with family and friends if you’re having problems with them what you can do to help animals if you’re interested we also have an expanded version of this pamphlet by written by my co-founder of vegan outreach Matt ball along with Bruce Friedrich of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals and this book is just $10 on our website if you’re interested a lot of people have that have read it said that it has really helped them deal with family and friends again and activism finally I have this guide to cruelty free eating which I has in it article called staying healthy on plant-based diets it follows along with my talk to a large extent and it lists all the nutrition recommendations I’m going to give with one small exception which I will point out when I get to it so you don’t need to write anything down so what I want to do is examine the role of vegetarian diets and preventing chronic disease as it’s been measured in studies looking directly at vegetarians and in review the nutritional concerns of vegan diets especially but also to some extent at lacto-ovo vegetarian diets so the way that we have a lot of information about lacto-ovo vegetarians and vegans is through five large cohort studies that have been performed on them and a cohort study means that you get a group of people together generally healthy people with different diets and then you follow them over time you measure the diet every few years that they’re eating to make sure they’re still eating the same diet and then you see what sort of disease incidences they have and then compare them to each other and that’s really I think the one of the best ways anyway we have to determine what a vegetarian diet actually does for you and what it doesn’t a number of these studies were finished around the year 2000 and before but right now epic Oxford and Adventist Health – these two bottoms studies are currently ongoing up through this study Oxford vegetarian there were only a total of 760 vegans studied but epic Oxford has 2,000 and Adventist too has 3,000 and that’s going to be a lot more helpful in getting information about vegans than what we have had so far the first bit of information that we got on vegetarian mortality was in 1999 there was a meta-analysis released looking at the combined results of the top four or was it five studies I had shown on the previous slide and it showed that vegetarians had 24 percent less heart disease and regular meat-eaters it also showed that vegans had 26 percent less heart disease than regular meat-eaters in other words people we meet more than one times a week one time a week but that finding was not statistically significant meaning that it could have been due to random chance but it was a trend very similar to the larger group of vegetarians so there’s I think good reason to think that it was a fairly accurate view of a vegan diet but we will find out soon when more research comes out on vegan diets the vegetarians had the same rates of cancer and total mortality as the non vegetarians which was a somewhat disappointing result that’s into some instant that to be possible due to just not having enough people or following them for long enough time because it takes a great deal a very high number of people to find statistically significant results for cancer it’s just a lot less common than heart disease what they did in these studies though is they perform what’s called standardized mortality rates in which they compared the overall population which was all the vegetarians all the vegans all the meat-eaters to the greater population what happens often is it healthier people volunteer for studies and in this case they found out that this was true that the the people in these studies overall had only half the rate of mortality and that is deaths before the age of 90 then the greater population so these were very healthy people and so the vegetarians having the same rates of cancer that was compared to people with somewhat low rates of cancer now the Adventist Health Study and one reason that it seventh-day Adventists are studied is that they promote vegetarianism to their members and a large proportion of them are vegetarian and I think more recently are becoming vegan and the good thing about it is that they have very low rates of smoking and alcohol consumption so you can kind of weed out that variable more easily and see what difference is the diet making because they have such similar lifestyles and not just the drinking and smoking but in other ways also we found that the vegetarian women live two-and-a-half years longer and the vegetarian men lived three years longer among these Adventists hypertension and diabetes was 50% less for the vegetarians and rheumatoid arthritis was 25% less now I’m going to talk a little bit about disease markers and these studies are cross-sectional which means that it was just a slice in time at what these vegetarians cholesterol levels were in other words they didn’t follow people over time to see what happened in their cholesterol levels but in any case what I did was I took all the studies from 1980 through 2003 and I did this back in 2003 it measured vegans cholesterol levels and I averaged them all out in V is non vegetarians the number here is how many were these are people who eat no meat except for fish these are lacto-ovo vegetarians and we found that the vegans had a cholesterol level of 160 compared to 185 and then 202 for the non-vegetarian so they’re doing vegans obviously or having having a much lower level of cholesterol and the big difference was in the LDL cholesterol LDL is the bad cholesterol and the HDL is thought to be good cholesterol and the 50 you want a higher HDL and the vegans had a lower but what’s most important is the total cholesterol ratio to HDL on you sub t and that was 3.14 the vegans vs. 3.7 for the non vegetarians which was a good finding so there’s nothing to worry about that the vegans had a lower HDL cholesterol the vegans also had a lower triglyceride level which was an interesting finding because if you listen to a lot of the people that promote low carbohydrate diets they say that low-carb oh that high carbohydrate diets raise triglyceride levels and in some controlled studies that is true but among free living vegans we can see that it actually isn’t so one only one study has looked at the percentage of vegans with high blood pressure compared to other groups and it found that for men only 6% of the vegans had high blood pressure versus 15% for the non vegetarians and the women had a similar finding with 8% vs. 12% so that was a good finding that was statistically significant in the last few years anyway there’s been two large studies done on body mass index body mass index is a measurement of weight in relation to height and it gives you an estimate of whether someone is too heavy or not but it can be influenced by someone who’s very muscular which could throw off the results but generally that hasn’t been a problem for these studies it all averages out what has been traditionally thought is that a BMI between 20 and 25 is the most healthy a BMI above of 25 to 30 is considered overweight and then over 30 is considered obese and more recently there’s been a theory that maybe people with a BMI below 22.5 and then especially below 20 that may not be a good thing necessarily because of their lower fat free mass in the past we’ve always known that people with BM is less than 20 had higher rates of mortality but it was always thought to be due to undiagnosed disease and smoking related diseases that were not found upon entry into these studies but they’re actually finding that as they they measure for these variables the finding doesn’t go away so and the reason I bring that up is it I think in the vegan movement we often have an idea that there’s no way to get too thin I mean there’s course you can get extremely extremely to thin that that we would agree is not good but generally there’s no way to and I think that maybe we need to rethink that a bit and see if maybe I think especially maybe a little bit higher protein might help increase the fat free mass of some vegans so that we’re not too thin but these are I think somewhat preliminary findings it’s been studied a lot but it takes a lot of studies to really find conclusive evidence of these things anyway the vegan BMI and this Venice hall study – is right in the middle of what’s considered healthy and the non-vegetarian was in the overweight range and the lacto-vegetarian was actually in the over eight weight range as well which is the first time I’d ever seen that in a study but that’s the most recent findings and then this other one the the other largest study in recent years was epic Oxford in 2003 and they had a similar finding with the vegans right in the middle of a healthy BMI and the non vegetarians on average significantly higher they’re not overweight in this case okay then there was one cross-sectional study that has looked at type-2 rates of type 2 diabetes and vegans and this was a very good finding and not a surprising one at all but it was the first time it was actually measured I think we fought for years at a vegan diet has been a way to prevent type 2 diabetes and there have been studies by PCRM treating people with type 2 diabetes with a vegan diet that have been very effective but it hasn’t been looked at in terms of preventive this was just released this year and they found that they actually broke it down and even further diet groups and normal so we’ve got the vegan lacto-ovo fish eaters and then semi vegetarians which are people who eat meat more than once a month but less than once a week and then the non vegetarians eat meat weekly or more I have two findings up here the first one the top ratio was when they adjusted for the body mass index and when they did that they found that vegans had 50% as much type 2 diabetes as non vegetarians but I don’t think I think it was good that they did that adjustment but I think a more accurate adjustment of what the vegan diet can do for you is the adjustment for without the BMI because the vegan diet probably does influence body mass index so if you if you take out the adjustment for the BMI the vegans had only 30% of the type 2 diabetes as non vegetarians basically vegans have very low rates of type 2 diabetes and the cross-sectional study it’ll be interesting to see if we we find that when following vegans over time as well which I won’t be surprised if we do I certainly hope so okay so in terms of looking at cancer there have been a number of studies that have compared rates of lacto-ovo vegetarians to meat-eaters and just recently in 2009 epic the the epic Oxford study released a findings about vegetarians which included vegans and lacto-ovo vegetarians compared to people who only eat fish I’m sorry people who don’t eat meat except for fish compared to regular meat-eaters and they found that the vegetarians and the fish eaters had about 80 percent of the the overall cancer rates as the regular meat-eaters although you can’t say that they had necessarily lower rates than meat-eaters be since fish is meat and the fish eaters also had low rates the top part was that other three other studies have compared all cancer rather than breaking it down into separate types of cancer in vegetarians compared to meat-eaters and they found no difference and the results as for prostate cancer one study has found lower rates and vegetarians three studies have found no difference between the two diet groups in colorectal cancer it was lower in vegetarians in one study and another study it was lower in people who’ve been vegetarian for more than 20 years but no different for current vegetarians and then in three other studies that were no difference there were no studies that showed higher rates of colorectal cancer for vegetarians okay for breast cancer there were five studies that have shown no difference and one study has shown higher rates of breast cancer it was not it did not adjust for having no children and women who have not had children are at a higher risk for breast cancer so that could be part of the reason that this was found and also vegetarians tend to have less children than non-vegetarians so that could explain some of it and the finding was barely significant so I don’t think it’s anything to worry about at all and certainly five studies have not found a difference lung cancer there’s been seven studies that have looked at it and there’s been no difference and then there have been other studies that have looked at it’s smaller less common types of cancer and they’ve been there just hasn’t been enough really to report here so to sum up what I’ve just been talking about in the words of the American Dietetic Association that just released another position paper on vegetarian diets in 2009 they are the most mainstream nutrition body in the United States and possibly the world and they and you know endorse to some extent they don’t tell people that they should go vegetarian but they certainly have a positive position on it and they say that a vegetarian diet can help prevent disease as this top paragraph says and then they say that a well-planned vegetarian diet including a vegan diet are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the lifecycle including pregnancy lactation infancy childhood and adolescence as well as for athletes so if people tell you that you can’t be vegetarian and I still hear that pretty frequently you can point to the American Dietetic Association x’ position okay so now I’m going to talk about some of the nutritional concerns of vegans and lacto-ovo vegetarians in this case of its vitamin b12 is the most important one and it is mostly for vegans although some lacto-ovo vegetarians don’t have the greatest vitamin b12 levels anyone who eats the few animal products you eat the more important vitamin b12 becomes so it’s not just for people who are strictly vegan ok so plant foods do not naturally contain vitamin b12 and that’s why it’s an issue for vegans and there are two types of b12 deficiency one is what I call overt b12 deficiency and that is when you develop your b12 levels get extremely low you develop nerve and blood problems you’ll get a macrocytic anemia you can start developing tingling in your fingers and toes and if you don’t catch it and do something about it you can become it can lead to death actually eventually can often be caught once you have tingling in the fingers and toes it can be reversed and there will be no permanent damage but the longer you let it go the more likely it is to cause permanent damage so it’s not something to mess with and I will get more into it in a second about how to prevent any problems then the other type of vitamin b12 deficiency which we’ve just started learning about in this decade the year 2000 is when these papers started coming out that have shown that vegans have had high levels of homocysteine homless cysteine is thought to be toxic to nerves and blood vessels and it is a byproduct of methionine metabolism which is an amino acid that’s it found commonly in proteins what happens is that if you don’t have enough b12 your body can’t get rid of the homocysteine and high levels of homocysteine have been linked to heart disease stroke Alzheimer’s disease and early death now I don’t think that it is well it has not been conclusively proven that homicidal IED but they all pretty much show the same thing these are vegans who do not supplement for the most part and you can see that the vegan b12 levels are all lower than the NAM than the vegetarians and non-vegetarians now that’s nothing surprising at all we’ve always known that the vegans who don’t supplement are gonna have lower b12 levels but if you look at home with cysteine levels in these same people you will see that the vegans have much higher homocysteine levels whereas the lacto-ovo vegetarians have have the next highest and the non vegetarians have the lowest now a home is cysteine level above 10 to 15 is where you start getting associated with this disease I mentioned earlier and then above 15 is really where there is a concern here is a study in 1998 in which people were supplementing with vitamin b12 and the vegans and here is a study from 98 where the vegans were taking vitamin b12 in a study from 99 where the vegans were taking vitamin b12 and you can see that their homocysteine levels are very well within the healthy range which is like 4 to 8 4 is extremely low it’s pretty I don’t it’s pretty hard to get lower than 4 so all you have to do is take vitamin b12 and your homocysteine levels should be fine okay so there’s a number of myths about what foods contain vitamin b12 and the reason that these miss exists to some extent some some of it is just people making things up but another thing is that the way that you measure vitamin b12 and animal products is using a measure that’s appropriate for animal products because animal products contain mostly active vitamin b12 but there are a lot of molecules that are very similar to vitamin b12 that are not active for humans and these measurements cannot discern between them very well and so what happens is that the companies use these crude methods to to measure their plant products and what they are often finding and many times is inactive vitamin b12 analogs but they still promote their food is having vitamin b12 because it’s it’s like there’s no regulation telling them they can’t do it some of the things that cannot be relied upon blue-green algae which include spirulina and super blue-green algae which is distributed by cell tech multi-level marketing company you may have heard of it I’m not sure and then seaweeds like nori and chlorella they cannot be relied on for vitamin b12 fermented foods like tempeh now in some countries tempeh starter may be contaminated with vitamin b12 producing bacteria and that is how b12 is made by bacteria but the temp the starter for tempeh does not require those bacteria so it’s also very easy to have tempeh without such bacterial bacteria and so if there is vitamin b12 in any tempeh it’s from contamination now none of the tempeh is in the US have ever found any inactive or active vitamin b12 analogues and tempeh but in some foreign countries they have found some at least vitamin b12 analogues so they’ve never really been tested to determine tested accurately to determine whether they were active or inactive brewers yeast and unfortified nutritional yeast they do not they cannot be relied upon for vitamin b12 fortified nutritionally scan organic foods in intestinal bacteria also can’t be relied upon okay so here’s my suggestions for vitamin b12 either take 3 to 5 micrograms a day from fortified foods in at least two servings per day your body can only absorb so much b12 at once in small amounts such as three to five micrograms once you get into a little bit higher amounts like 10 to 100 micrograms you can take just one a day or a thousand micrograms twice a week to dwell is another way to get enough vitamin b12 and so that there’s basically two ways that your body absorbs b12 one is through a system where proteins pick up the b12 and they transport it for you into your bloodstream and then there’s another way of just overwhelming your cell membranes with vitamin b12 and some of it just passively gets through into your blood and that’s why you can get it from such large doses okay so the next thing is omega-3 fatty acids so there are short chain Omega 3s and long chain Omega 3s and the plant omega-3s which are which is called ala or alpha linolenic acid found in flax seeds walnuts can all nm seeds and chia and a few other other foods that are not as common they need to be converted into longer chain omega-3s by your body in order to become the EPA and DHA that you find in fish the fish get it from seaweed and so you can also get EPA and DHA from seaweed and in like the last year and a half I think there is a company now that is has a has a vegan EPA on the market and there has been vegan DHA supplements for quite a number of years now and that are made from seaweed what these omega-3s do is they reduce inflammation blood clotting and cholesterol levels and DHA in particular prevents depression or another way to say that is if you get too low in DHA you could become depressed the problem unfortunately is that your body has to convert them and some people’s bodies do to convert them very efficiently okay so then one other thing about conversion is that DHA can be converted into EPA and so because of this I’ve changed my recommendations recently and since that guy do cruelty-free eating was put out to suggest that vegans should probably take a DHA supplement on a somewhat regular basis just to make sure you’re getting it and the older you get the less efficient your body is at converting these so it’s more important for older people probably to do this I’m going to get a little into that a little bit more in a second but the other there’s another side to this coin of omega-3s and that is omega sixes and I’m sorry this chart is somewhat complicated but I will just want to show it because it illustrates why it’s important to reduce omega-6 fatty acids and omega-6 fatty acids are very common in plant oils like I just talked about what plants have omega-3s and they were fairly obscure plant foods that people are knocking a whole lot of picks up for walnuts but omega sixes are found in just about all plant oils and vegans tend to get very high amounts of omega-6 a good ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 is one to four and vegans tend to be above 1 to 10 on all the way to 1 to 15 in some studies now the reason that this is a problem is that the same enzyme that converts the the short chain omega-3 to the long-chain omega-3s is the same enzyme that converts short chain omega-6 is to long chain Omega sixes and up here is the Magus threes getting converted and down here is the mega mega sixes and this is the enzyme doing it and if you overwhelm this enzyme with omega-6 then it can’t convert the omega-3 so it’s important that vegans reduce their intake of omega sixes as well as increase their intake of omega-3s so these are my recommendations for omega-3s as 2 to 300 milligrams of DHA per day I don’t think it’s necessary to do that every single day or to be the evidence isn’t overwhelming that vegans must do this every day but I think it’s a good idea to do so then avoid omega-6 which is corn soy safflower sunflower anything called vegetable oil as well as sesame oil instead use olive peanut avocado or canola oil which are low in omega-6 is only cook canola oil under low heat for short periods because he does damage omega-3s the good thing about canola is and I know there’s some bad things about it iron mentally but the good thing about is it’s high in monounsaturated fats and it’s also hot it also has a large amount of omega-3 so you’re it’s low in omega 6 and high in omega 3’s as well as flat flaxseed is very low omega 6 as well so then I recommend if you’re taking DHA each day or regularly I recommend you still try to get half a gram of uncooked alpha-linolenic acid into your diet daily by doing one of the following here eating some walnuts only three-halves of walnuts is enough for to get this amount a quarter teaspoon of flaxseed oil a teaspoon of canola oil or a teaspoon of ground flax seeds not to be hard to do but you have to make a point of doing it so vitamin D is not much of a problem in most if you live in Hawaii probably because I imagine most people get out in the Sun and you can always the Sun is always strong here and so all you have to do is get on the Sun for 10 or 15 minutes a day without sunscreen on because sunscreen blocks vitamin D production and if you do that you will get plenty of vitamin D now just in case I just want to inform people if if you don’t live in Hawaii what you need to do because vitamin D deficiency is pretty common on the US mainland a high percentage recent research has shown that a high percentage of people have mild vitamin D deficiency and those diseases are linked with a lot of autoimmune disease and other diseases that you can see listed so because of that I recommend that if you do not get in the Sun every day 10 to 15 minutes if you have light skin 20 minutes if you have dark skin 30 minutes if you’re elderly because elderly people do not convert vitamin D very well and their skin without sunscreen then you should take a thousand international units of vitamin D to vitamin D to is vegan vitamin d3 is not unfortunately this amount of vitamin D does require supplements it cannot you there’s no multivitamin that has that much vitamin D and there’s no fortified food and what country life makes a very cheap common supplement that you can get in in most health food stores a vitamin d2 now I’ve met a lot of vegans that have had problems such as the ones I listed before like just bones hurt and pain and fatigue and a lot being about for that I’ve worked with and after getting either’s in the Sun usually this taking supplements they have felt tremendously better and have felt that they were cured of whatever was was happening to them so it can be a problem for vegans and so that’s why I think I make a big point to making sure people know about it salar da for is only 200 international units and that’s way less than 1000 i recommended and there is a large number of vitamin d researchers that think the RDA should be increased though that is somewhat controversial and i guess we’ll see the next time they update the RDA for vitamin d whether they’re going to increase it or not and there is a controversy about whether vitamin d2 is effective this study kind of indicates that it is in that four of the five vegans in finland who took vitae just five micrograms a day of vitamin B d2 which I think was the 200 international units so much lower than what I was recommending if they took it for 11 months and they had an increase in their lower back bone density of course they were in Finland has a very little Sun and so they were probably needing it somewhat pretty badly the other thing is that vitamin d2 doesn’t last in your system as long as vitamin d3 so you have to take it regularly you can’t just take a lot for a few days and expect it to do much for you unless you’re getting Sun ok so calcium is another issue especially for vegans here are some things that can help prevent osteoporosis weight-bearing exercise throughout your lifetime having a heavier body weight is actually reduces your risk for osteoporosis adequate calcium vitamin D vitamin K protein potassium magnesium and boron adequate estrogen levels especially for women that can be important for some vegetarian and vegans because if women get such low fat if they very very low fat diets and start not having enough fat to produce enough estrogen they could be putting themselves at risk for osteoporosis in factors that can contribute to osteoporosis high sodium and caffeine intake smoking too little protein and a sedentary lifestyle now if you notice I said too little protein not too much protein and that in in the vegan health nutrition circles for many years we’ve promoted the idea that osteoporosis is not a disease of calcium not enough calcium intake it’s a disease of too much animal protein intake so there’s been that’s been a very controversial position it hasn’t been very controversial on the vegan among vegan nutritionists I mean I’ve always had a problem with it but and there’s been a few others that have had that have as well but for the most part all the popular books and that sort of thing promote this idea and so I wanted to just talk about quickly a 2000 alysus that just came out that looked it looked at many many studies that cat bone protein intake and bone health including bone mineral density and fracture rates I’m going to just talk about the fracture rates in the seven cohort studies because I think that’s the most important information but all the rest of the information was pretty similar and I’m not going to necessarily go over every single one the the moral of the story is that they they’ve looked at they’ve combined the data from seven cohort studies and they found that well they don’t really combine all the data into one group of data but they looked at it all and compared it and tried to measure out what was going on and anyway one study found that just one study found that is animal protein intake went up that fracture rates went up the rest of the studies either showed no difference on and one showed that the risk went down in any case the the meta-analysis the authors ended up their paper saying overall the weight of evidence shows that the effect of dietary protein on the skeleton appears to be favorable to a small extent or at least is not detrimental now these are with these are amounts recommended amounts of protein an average amounts of intake they’re not like four times the RDA which some people could take if they’re really really loading up on protein and so that might be a problem if they take that much protein in but generally the idea is that has did has been promoted is it if you eat a lot of protein your body excretes a lot of calcium and studies have shown that to be the case but you also absorb more calcium when you eat more protein and that could counteract it and in studies that have looked at what’s called hormone which is if it’s elevated it often means that your bone is being you is excreting calcium to help your blood maintaining the right calcium balance those studies have been I would say on the side of protein not causing osteoporosis but they were short term clinical studies or laboratory tests so that is the latest information on that and now something that backs that up to some extent is a what I think is the most important study that has come out on vegans and bone bones and that was a 2007 paper on bone fractures from epoch Oxford and they followed a thousand vegans and 10,000 lacto-ovo vegetarians and meat eaters for over four five years and they found that vegans had a 30% higher fracture rate than meat-eaters now when they adjusted it for most of the variables that tend to influence fractures they found that vegans had 30% higher rate but then when they adjusted for calcium intake as well they found that vegans did not have a higher rate so what they found out when they test teased out the data was that among the vegans who got 525 milligrams of calcium a day or more the vegans had the same fracture rates but of the of the vegans who got less they had higher rates and only 55% of the vegans had calcium intakes that high whereas 95 percent of the people in the other groups other diet groups did so this was a pretty well it was a disappointing finding an important one in my opinion and there’s been nothing to counteract there’s been no other study that have followed has followed vegans now if one other study came out and it when it contradicted this and I think that maybe this wouldn’t we shouldn’t take this quite as seriously but until there’s other evidence it seems to me very important that vegans make sure they get at least five hundred twenty-five milligrams of calcium a day at the very least but I would recommend shooting for at least 700 and the RDA is about a thousand for most adults well it is a thousand for most adults then for people who are I think it’s about 50 it’s goes up to 1,300 you know we’ve often said vegans don’t need to worry about calcium because animal protein is what causes osteoporosis that does not seem to the case for the data we have so far the good thing is it there is a lot of calcium and especially on leafy greens which also contain vitamin K which helps protect bones the thing about that though is that you actually do have to eat the greens to get the calcium out of them so if you think that you’re getting the calcium from greens make sure you eat them and also note that the calcium in spinach Swiss chard and beet greens although those foods do have high amounts of calcium they’re not well absorbed because they bind with oxalates and get excreted and also note that the calcium and other leafy greens are absorbed about the same as cow’s milk and soy milk at about 25 to 30 percent of the calcium the US DRI the DRI has replaced the RDA for many nutrients and actually the RDA is considered a DRI right now so the DRI is really the term people should be using but it hasn’t really caught on so much it’s a thousand milligrams for 19 to 50 year olds begin to try to get 700 and I suggest three options one is 3 servings of greens which is a cup and a half of cooked or how many however much raw would equal a cup and a half if it wasn’t if it was cooked so I think it’s usually about 3 to 4 cups of raw greens or or 1 an 8 ounce glass of fortified soy milk or orange juice or 3 to 500 a 3 to 500 milligram supplement each day if you do one of these 3 things your calcium intake is a vegan should be higher than well you know definitely higher than 525 most soy milks now are fortified with vitamin as vitamin B vitamin D and vitamin b12 so you can get it easily from soy milk if you’re interested in drinking soy milk iodine is a more of a problem for people who do not live near the ocean so once again people in Hawaii are vegans and Hawaii probably don’t have to worry too much about iodine it’s needed for a healthy thyroid and if vegans are low in iodine and they eat soy especially soy can counteract iodine and so if you don’t have enough iodine you might find that it a problem if your if you’re eating a lot of soy now if you eat if you regularly iodized salt then you shouldn’t be having a problem with iodine but I don’t recommend that you start eating iodized salt in order to get it also people eat seaweed a lot of sea we also getting iodine in the seaweed if you don’t need seaweed then I would recommend an iodine supplement unless you live in why you might not need to worry about it but in any case what what the deal is with iodine and food is it really depends what how much iodine is in the soil and so food grown in soil near the ocean is going to be higher in iodine so if you live in Hawaii and you eat most of your food I don’t know shipped in from the mainland or something like that then you might not be getting it and it most multivitamins have iodine plenty of it and so if you take one regularly you just check to make sure it does otherwise you can get a bottle of kelp pills very cheap like for five to seven dollars and they can last you at least a year and just take one every few days that’s what I do is just every few days I just take one it’s not nothing you have to worry too much about iron is an interesting issue for vegan diets because vegans tend to have as high or higher iron intakes than non-vegetarians however plant iron is not absorbed as well as iron from meat vitamin C significantly aids an IR absorption though it must be eaten at the same meal to increase the iron absorption the vitamin C forms a chili with the iron that allows you to absorb it good sources of vitamin C besides orange juice is potatoes broccoli cauliflower and many fruit juices are now fortified with vitamin C if you are having if you do happen to have iron deficiency anemia I recommend seeing it if you think you have it I recommend seeing a doctor to see if you really do that can save you a lot of time worrying about is something that’s not there but if you’re having a stubborn case of iron absorption that does not respond to iron supplements or vitamin C then l-lysine is an amino acid that also helps in iron absorption so there’s more details at vegan health org articles slash iron if you just go to vegan health org you can just look at it will be a link to iron and so if this is any sort of issue for you I have a lot of information there about it okay so vitamin E it’s pretty easy to get on a vegan diet except you have to make the effort to make sure you’re doing it item a is made from beta carotene and for men for women at seven hundred men is nine hundred and as you can see you can easily get it from a cup of carrot juice many times IRA you can probably get it from well less you know less than half a cup of carrot juice a day and these other foods have it as well so just make sure your what I do is I keep some carrot juice on the refrigerator and I drink at least a quarter of a cup a day make sure I’m getting enough vitamin A vegetarians do not need to combine protein sources at each meal to get a complete protein because your body stores amino acids that you eat throughout the day and uses them as necessary however I do think it’s good to include legumes like two to three times a day because they are the highest source of protein on vegan diets and that will help you reach make sure that you get enough protein vegan athletes have slightly different needs possibly and I have a number of articles at vegan health org if you’re interested in what vegan athletes need it is possible for vegans to not meet protein needs and I like to bring this up because there’s also an idea in vegan nutrition circles that say that they’re you know I’ve heard people who promote a vegan diets say that there’s no one in the US that is suffering from protein deficiency and that is simply not true in any case here are the ways that vegans might not meet protein needs if you’re not eating enough calories for one thing such as in these these problems anorexia depression dieting you have any of these issues you should definitely try to make sure you’re eating a higher percentage of protein then you normally would if most of the junk food you eat is junk food then you’re not going to be getting enough protein unless it’s very high protein junk food which these days you can actually get quite a bit of high protein vegan junk food but if it’s french fries and soda then you need to worry about it of course you shouldn’t be eating like that anyway but I know vegans who have eaten like that and they gets often get colds and things like that and part of it could be just not having a protein to fight off infections okay so then if you don’t think the protein is important such as some fruitarian diets or some raw foods diets not all by any means but in some or if you avoid legumes so you don’t like to eat them or for some reason then you need to think about how you’re going to get protein in other ways and often soy foods are an easy way to do it okay so now I’m going to move on to soy I get the by far the most questions I get OH when people email me is about soy at least half of I get is about soy so I want to touch on that and this is the last big issue I’m going to touch on sewing the thyroid as I mentioned earlier if you don’t have enough iodine soit could become a problem but studies have shown that if you do have enough iodine then soy does is not a problem so that kind of sums it up pretty quickly okay so in breast cancer that has been a lot more controversial over the years just recently we’ve been getting better information about rates of breast cancer for people eat different amounts of soy so the question is some people say that soy could prevent breast cancer some people say so it could cause breast cancer and that’s because soy has things called isoflavones which are considered to be plant estrogens and what they do is they can attach to estrogen receptors on your cells and then they they do not make the the cell respond as strongly as if it was a normal molecule of estrogen but it has a weak estrogen effect now some people think that this could dull dull the regular estrogen and some people think it could increase the problem if you have a lot of soy and then some breast cancer is actually estrogen positive estrogen receptor-positive which means that estrogen is actually causing the cancer to grow and so particularly for women with those type of cancers it’s been an issue about whether soy is harmful or helpful in 2006 meta-analysis was published looking at the 17 studies it had looked at soy and breast cancer and followed women over time and they found it women with the highest high intake had slightly lower risk of breast cancer and the largest intake was only one serving per day which is a lot less than what many vegans eat which I would guess is probably closer to two or three servings a day but in 2009 the shanghai women’s health study just released results and they found it among pre mental premenopausal women three servings per day of soy was actually protective so these women reading a lot more soy so they were able to figure out what what that was doing and in fact these women with at three servings a day they had about half the risk of the women in the lowest soy group and this finding was highly significant so it seemed to be a I think it’s a convincing finding and then I just just a couple days ago they released more results from that Shanghai woman’s study and they found that women with estrogen positive breast cancer were also not so I was not a problem for them as well they teased out that part of the study four studies have looked at breast tissue biopsies with of women who eat a lot of isoflavones compared to those who don’t and found no difference from higher isoflavone intake and then two studies have looked at women’s survival after breast cancer diagnosis in women who made different amounts of soy and found that there was no reduced survival from soy after a breast cancer diagnosis so it really seems that soy is not a problem for breast cancer at least that’s evidence we have have so far ok soy and dementia in 1999 you might have heard of this since it came out of Hawaii tofu was linked with lower cognitive function now this caused a big kerfuffle I would say in the vegan community because we didn’t know what was going on with that and I know that dr. Harris took samples from soy from tofu products and found higher levels of aluminum that then were healthy I don’t know if that was the cause or not but in any case this was one finding here’s some other findings 2008 an Indonesian study found tofu linked to slightly worse memory but they found tempeh linked to slightly better memory and then the authors in the study go on to state that the tofu and Indonesia uses formaldehyde for processing which is very damaging to the nerve to the brain so that could be the reason and likely is and I looked this up because that sounded so bizarre and I did find articles on the Internet of people trying to get the government of Indonesia to stop doing this and so it does appear to be really true which I didn’t necessarily doubt it when it was the author’s put it in their in their paper but it does seem pretty crazy other studies of links way to better cognitive function and a study of seventh-day adventists many of whom have consumed soy foods their whole lives showed lower dementia and old age than the general population so it seems like as a whole soy probably doesn’t have a bad effect on dementia unless you’re eating formaldehyde with it so okay so other soy issues that may be protective against heart disease it seems that the proteins in soy are are less likely to promote the production of the bad cholesterol LDL cholesterol so that can be one of the reasons why protects against heart disease as well as you know being substitute for for meat in the diet prostate cancer osteoporosis and menopausal symptoms may be soy may protect against tempeh is a particularly good source of absorbable zinc some vegan diets are low and zinc and so that’s a good way to get it of course people have soy allergies and if you have this soy allergy you will want to avoid soy and I like to point out some people do feel better eating soy foods other people feel worse eating soy foods possibly due to allergy or intolerance it just really depends and I also want to point out that you don’t need soy to be vegan the vegan movement does not hinge on soy there were not many soy foods many years ago when Bill Harris first became vegan right in 1964 certainly not the amount of soy products there are now you can find so many of and we could go back to not using soy for so much stuff if necessary but it doesn’t really seem like there is a reason for that and two to three servings a day at least for them the data we have now seems to be safe on vegan health.org I have a page of real vegan children these are children whose mothers were vegan when they were pregnant and vegan during breastfeeding and then these kids have been vegan their whole lives and so you can go look at look at them to see real true life stories of kids who were formed completely by plants and know that it’s healthy and a lot a lot of people unfortunately I mean a lot of people while out leafletting for vegan outreach that say that they’ve stopped being vegan because they got pregnant and I think in some cases you know they get a lot of pressure from their family and friends and even doctors to to stop being vegan so if you know anyone that’s getting pregnant and is is worried about that send them to this page and there’s also another page giving recommendations of course pregnant women okay so if you’re transitioning to a vegan diet here’s what I suggest ins I have four people one is to base your meals around one of each of these foods legumes which are of course dried beans peanuts peas lentils and soy foods grains fruit and yellow and green vegetables and nuts so if you have some of that in each of your meals you should be doing pretty good it should be satisfying and healthy eat plenty of unprocessed foods and if you have a high metabolism and find that you can’t keep up your weight on a vegan diet then think about eating some processed foods like oils pastas and like drinks like smoothies if you want any information I go into more detail about all the things I’ve talked about if you can believe there’s more details on all this stuff than when I went over at vegan health org and you can email me through that site and then I have a blog at Jack Norris Rd com that anytime I change anything of any of any importance on vegan health org I send out a post to everyone that’s subscribed letting them know about the research that just came out so please feel free to subscribe to that and that’s all and if you have questions feel free to ask them thank you yes heed the question what do I think that people living in Hawaii vegans living in Hawaii need to supplement vitamin D no I don’t think that if unless you don’t go in the Sun without sunscreen ever hey I mean you need to do it 10 to 15 minutes every at least every other day if you don’t do that then yes you should use it supplement vitamin D but I you know it’s really easy to do that here it seems to me but if you have a job where you just can’t get outside your body does store extra amounts of vitamin D so if you’re out if you’re out a lot in the Sun on the weekends and your son and your skin actually gets red from the Sun then you probably have enough to last you through the week okay the question was I recommended 30 minutes of Sun for for older people and he said that his dermatologist would not recommend that because of skin cancer obviously I you you know the general recommendations are go to just short of getting your skin red so I think that that’s what you should go by what if you know because people are very different people with dark skin are going to need longer amounts and some people can be in the Sun a lot longer and other people can’t so yeah I am that’s what I would recommend and it hasn’t it is a tough situation and that’s I think why there’s so much vitamin D deficiency these days is because people play on Suns sunscreen to prevent skin cancer which is seems to be a good thing as a reasonable thing to do Jim did you were you next I think okay Jim said that he seen reports that 80 to 90 percent of cancer is due to lifestyle and this studies that I showed don’t seem to correlate to that now smoking is a big part of that smoking is linked to many forms of cancer not just lung cancer so once you take in and when we look at those people the the rates of smoking were very low and they adjusted for smoking so basically they took smoking out of that equation so that right there is going to be a lot of it then alcohol could be alcohol could be a reason for some of the cancer as well that they’ve adjusted tried to adjust out and and really high sodium diets can cause stomach cancer and so those have been I don’t know actually I don’t I don’t know that they adjusted out for that but I’m guessing that those populations that people ate about the same amount of sodium they weren’t eating large amounts like in some countries so you know I have a paper on linked to on vegan health org under an article called it’s like cancer and vegetarianism and it talks about all the the foods that have been linked to cancer and what amount of evidence there is for them and it’s done by the researchers that do epic along with a few others and a couple of those guys are vegans so they’re definitely not just biased against vegans in that group of people and and so you know the estimates 80 to 90 percent of cancer is lifestyle you know that could could also to be chemicals in the environment and things like that not necessarily only food and it could be that vegans do have much lower rates of cancer like I was talking about vegetarians here because they just haven’t been enough vegan studied I mean my hope is it vegans will have much lower rates of cancer when that when those results start coming out and then we’ll know more but right now we just don’t know we can only guess what might be the case question was could the funding sources of these studies influence the results and then the next question was what about societies that have been vegetarian for many generations so the first part most of the studies i’ve referenced I don’t think that there’s any bias going on because like I said there are a couple vegans involved in a great number of those studies and in the other ones like you the studies list to who sponsors them they’re supposed to list it at the end and so you can see if the National Dairy Council is who funded it and so if that’s a case I’m not gonna you know I would I would note that and point it out and in noting that I talked about tonight was it it was that the case where a major source was the meat industry or the dairy industry now there may be some researchers that have certain you know biases and things like that and they tried they try to take that out in ways of the reports but my my impression is that what I’ve presented tonight you know there may be some soy industry funding for some of the soy studies I talked about but other than that I think it’s all been pretty people doing the best science that they can now in terms of societies that have been vegetarian I’ve there have not been studies following societies that are vegetarian and weeding out the vile the vegetarians do against the non vegetarians so there just isn’t data on that you can look at societies that have lower rates of animal product consumption and see how they compare to groups of people that have that have less rates of animal product consumption and it does seem to be that the countries with lower animal product consumption have lower rates of many of the chronic diseases but what I was looking at actual vegetarians and comparing them with non vegetarians and that to me is telling more telling about the vintage actual diet versus what else might be going on in those countries in other words they may have different many different things many different lifestyle factors or genetic factors I hope that answers the question I’ve never seen a database that included iodine in I mean almost every not every but almost every nutritional database actually takes the info from the USDA because it’s such a big body and they update it regularly so in fact you may know more about the USDA database and I do because I know you’ve you’ve done a lot with it on your own but I don’t know of anything that lists iodine levels I’m afraid there are estimates about seaweed that I’ve found alright thank you very much Thanks [Applause] thanks very much jack for such a really illuminating talk I think we’ve all learned a lot and thanks to all of you two for coming tonight we invite you to come out to the courtyard now and get some really great refreshments from down to earth thank you all again and Happy Holidays this program is brought to you by the vegetarian Society of Hawaii a nonprofit organization dedicated to sharing with the community the many benefits of a vegetarian diet free monthly meetings include vegetarian experts and locally and on the mainland quick and easy cooking demonstrations and helpful and 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