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Vegan Psychology

Hello today I want to talk about what what’s the benefits of going to a vigilar and if you know dividual is in terms of more specifically for animals it’s when you go to a slaughterhouse and you see the trucks of animals that are entering and see them for a moment and usually we give the martyr or try to comfort them as much as we could and so first this will sound like it’s a bad idea that especially if you’re not a vegan it might sound like you’re torturing yourself and that’s work it’s kind of interesting because there’s a lot of stuff that we know about this kind of idea take a look at what happens if someone takes something that’s overly comforting into their life so for example people that do opium waltz ends you get overly sensitive it is a painkiller and we find is actually that people will become more sensitive to suffering by ingesting these chemicals and on the contrary there’s other substances that do the exact opposite of what painkillers do and people with chronic pain conditions actually take things to their benefit where after they get used to the drug they actually feel much better in general because they’ve gained a tolerance for the suffering and I think that this kind of thing applies to confronting these animals as well because you tend to realize that they’re about to die and you see them and you see them in a much more human way when you’re confronting them here they usually sit in trucks for long periods of time you can see the exhaustion on their face and there’s a lot of elements that are pretty obvious when you look into the animals eyes you can tell if they’re more cautious or afraid of people some of them aren’t some of them share with each other and take turns drinking the water that we give them they’ll actually stopped drinking and allow another Pig and then stop again and let the other Pig go again but then some fight over it and you can kind of tell they’re different individual lives while you’re at these events and I think this kind of connection actually makes it more intense to realize that they’re about to die and this might sound bad but again that’s why I think there’s a benefit to exposing yourself to these things like first off these things are happening whether you look at them or not and to not look at them I think neglects and very important truth I think not looking at them is self comforting and I think that makes us more sensitive to suffering on one hand but I think on the other hand I think there’s a an element where like you might think that being sensitive to these animals by not going by remaining hypersensitive to these things is a good thing but it’s not necessarily it doesn’t mean that you’re going to care more about the animals it means that you’re simply not going to confront the problem at all and when you confront them although you might develop a tolerance to it you’re actually experiencing it at all in the first place when you’re avoiding it there is no experience of this to be sensitive to like you might have a sensitivity it’s just not applicable to your reality and another interesting element is that you’re surrounded by a bunch of people undergoing the same experience and I think that’s what’s critical to the benefit of going to these events even for someone who’s not a feech and I think people should go to these in the same way that someone might practice some form of intense exercise or intense physical endurance experience I think it can kind of train you would also force you to confront a reality that we often neglect and I think that kind of neglects makes us even fearful in our own lives towards the general concept of death and I think it makes us more selfish in some sense to but when we are at this event surrounded by other people it’s an interesting kind of bonding experience because everyone is in this kind of vulnerable state you know when we’re at these events it’s not like everyone’s crying some people are crying but the people are joking people are laughing there’s a lot of empathic vibes at these events and I think that it’s much it’s a very unique type of bonding because because of the vulnerability but also because of but mostly events that we bond like if we do drink alcohol that’s a substance that numbs us and we we don’t even it’s like we become more shallow and relate to each other on more shallow perspectives and it’s also euphoric experience which doesn’t really have any element of vulnerability and in fact it kind of with the numbness it kind of reduces wall rebuilding but I mean people will open up probably but I think and I’m going to that so but another thing I want to talk about is that when we go to these events I know my first went vegan I didn’t do it for the animals actually I did it for the environmental reasons because I thought that if we’re harming the environment it’s essentially that like especially for for pleasurable foods we’re essentially giving ourselves pleasure and taking away what our children will have we’re reducing the lives of our children for our own sake and I don’t think we should look at ourselves as more special than future generations of humans and I think it’s also that it impacts a much more people like my choice to eat is impacting people in the long term a lot of people pretty much everybody and so I don’t know that’s what convinced me to turn and I didn’t actually have much empathy for animals at the time I mean I would if I saw the animals but it wasn’t it wasn’t I wasn’t really making a connection of what we do in food industry or anything like that in three experience there was a lot of weird developments I found people would assume that I cared about the animals and I would really freak me out because it didn’t make sense I could see that people were biased when they looked at me simply cuz I was vegan and just kind of made me feel really distanced from other people and it made me realize a lot about stigma in general and I’ve been stigmatized in my life a lot but this was particularly weird because it was almost everyone that would stigmatize this and I didn’t expect it I would openly talk about it and people would react so strange and it confused me and it kind of send me off on a weird path for a while I got kind of defensive and I noticed that people would stereotype my defensive Ness as well and even that was kind of shocking I didn’t realize that a lot of the vegan stereotypes were actually caused by a kind of natural progression of being an outcast from the meat-eating world and I think I think that there’s a kind of emotional contagion that’s red’s within the communities of these people being going undergoing this process and then also associating even with people that don’t undergo these stigmas in their lives I think if the moods and attitudes spread them on the being culture and create these kind of stereotypes and I think it’s all in essence justified but I think a lot of things are justified in life I think both sides of this argument are in some sense justified and that it’s all about educating each other and trying to show each other different perspectives and things that we didn’t ourselves consider and so something weird that happened after I went vegan is that I became more and more sensitive to the animals and I didn’t first understand this but then I realized that I think it was because I wasn’t eating them which normally forces me to undergo these kind of coping strategies where I numb myself to these animals so for example if I’m eating a burger I noticed that well I’m essentially eating something that I could have empathized with or thought was cute or whatever like this but I don’t I don’t do that while I’m eating and I think that we reduce our awareness of that because that would just ruin the food obviously we would make it hard to eat and I think when I wasn’t a vegan I thought that this wasn’t necessary thing that we have to eat meat and so coping isn’t really a problem and I also realize that there’s a few different kinds of coping mechanisms so for example we can dissociate from our rationality where we can tell ourselves that these animals didn’t have feelings or that they deserved it or any kind of various rationalizations that we don’t have actually evidence for will what kind of loosen up our need for evidence in order to make ourselves feel better and conclude things that were not actually able to conclude rationally will become less rational in order to make ourselves feel better and I realize that this kind of thing extends beyond these moments that we’re eating it extends to every kind of moment of conflict where I can find ways to rationalize myself into a place of comfort another alternative alternative Rio is that I could turn down my empathy and I can remain rational and not lie to myself essentially but then tell myself that I don’t care or that that it I don’t know I can just turn off my emotions towards the conflict and I realize that that alternative route leads to a lot of problems like I can look at humans less empathetically and reduce my concern for even people and just anything that’s causing emotional problems like any any person that’s suffering I can kind of shut that out even and and so for a while I was getting more and more sensitive and then I started getting a little bit bothered by the fact that no one else was getting sensitive any kind of made me feel weird but eventually I start going to the visuals and then I actually stopped experiencing that and that might be bad I’m not sure I think it makes me live more comfortably and functionally and it actually hopes me need to talk to you people who are non feeding without becoming overt emotional and I think that I think that just having that experience that phase in life that made me realize all these things was enough I don’t think I necessarily have to remain in that sensitive space because it can cause me to become over reactive and other things like that which might be a problem but it made me realize how much this lack of sensitivity can kind of decrease or cognition even it’s like I started developing a more kind of co-list ik world where everything is more interconnected and I realized there isn’t this disconnect from logic and emotion that most people will look at that everything is kind of interconnected like it’s not necessarily that logic and motion overlap but like our to make a rational decision is still an emotional decision because to make a decision at all is not based on like necessarily some logical outcome or something is more that I care about something a certain way which is an emotion and I can find the most illogical path to resolve that emotional problem or desire and so that is all for now I might I think I’m gonna link podcasts in the 30 minute broadcast episode where I go into depth about this topic and I hope this was kind of interesting and again I want to reiterate I think that this sensitivity route in life can really make you much more aware of the nuances and different things going on in life and how much that we choose to neglect things we neglect third world problems when you go out to everything that isn’t in our media soaked with existence and usually you favor a kind of instant gratification lifestyle where we kind of reward ourselves to numb out the problems that we see in the world and I think that actually is what generates most of the problems that we deal with like Wars and all these different things I think I think the core problems of disagreement that we have would still exist but our ability to deal with these problems with violence so easily you would not exist I think that changing our perspective in these waves can really benefit society a more generalized way and not just not just veganism for the animals or its until it extends to everything all life and so that’s it for today thank you for listening and good bye

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